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re: 767 cargo plane crash outside Houston

Posted on 2/23/19 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 5:50 pm to
I'm curious if Houston was playing their "keep them out the class B airspace" game and they hit someone out there with no transponder on or something.

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 5:51 pm to
Have you heard of Lynden? I actually applied for them on a whim

frickers never called me back.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

I'm curious if Houston was playing their "keep them out the class B airspace" game and they hit someone out there with no transponder on or something.
Wouldnt surprise me. Houston has the most dickhead controllers I’ve ever come across.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 5:57 pm to
I’ve read a little about them. Something about flying mining equipment into Russia. I know some guys at Tepper, if you’re familiar with them.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 6:02 pm to
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It’s strange because the cell was to the northwest of them I think. I heard that hail can be uplifted and thrown away from the storm. I wonder if they hit rogue hail and lost the windscreen. At 7000 feet on the approach they had no time to correct. Just my .02


I know a guy that flies for Delta internationally. He said that the storms at the equator can throw hail over a hundred miles because the storms are so strong.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 6:02 pm to
They do a lot of Papua New Guinea work. A couple planes over in africa. I think some New Zealand to Antarctica runs one month out of the year. Really cool flying but the pay pretty low, especially for the minimums they advertise.

I’m familiar with Tepper. I fly King Airs for one of the sandbox companies myself.
This post was edited on 2/23/19 at 6:03 pm
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 6:11 pm to
Ahh, ok. I’ve got some friends at L3 too. You probably do similar work to them.
This post was edited on 2/23/19 at 6:12 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Ahh, ok. I’ve got some friends at L3. You probably do similar work to them.

Yeah it’s the exact same stuff.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19450 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 6:53 pm to
Wouldn’t we have heard about someone else being missing by now?
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4233 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 7:00 pm to
Maybe.

A weekend warrior at 6500' not talking to anyone isnt unheard of.

That was a super steep descent, and the reports of people hearng the engines roaring kinda confuse the whole thing. Very odd situation. Could have been a microburst, or a seriously odd control malfunction, especially for a 76.

I know I've been concerned going into Houston a bunch of times, as they like to keep you in "Indian country" (out of the class B, under 10,000') as much as possible.

It's awful for the 3 ppl on board and their folks, I hope we at least find something that makes sense out of it.

Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6823 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 7:03 pm to
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Have you heard of Lynden? I actually applied for them on a whim


You want to fly DC9s and DC6s?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 7:05 pm to
They fly C-130’s now.

But DC-6’s would be cool
This post was edited on 2/23/19 at 7:06 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
40214 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 7:06 pm to
This incident is eerily similar to the Eastern DC-8 crash into Lake Pontchartrain back in the 60's. Went in nose first climbing out of 15000. Malfunctioning trim compensator. Bodies were washing ashore at Fountainbleu. Fuselage buried deep into the lake bottom.

Lauda was operating a BMK-VIE 763 back in the early nineties that had an uncommanded RT deploy on the climb out of Bangkok.

Premature, but just a couple of thoughts.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6823 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

They fly C-130’s now


That's right. I wouldn't want to fly those.

quote:

But DC-6’s would be cool


Actually, you're right. More fun than a CRJ.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 7:09 pm to
I decided long ago that I’m not chasing a paycheck my entire life at the expense of not enjoying my job. But I also am not willing to work for peanuts haha.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19450 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 7:15 pm to
I feel like it has to be a microburst. Wish I could see the overlay of the cell with the flight path in real time. But would he really fly right into that? If ATC denies deviation why not say frick you and squak 7700?
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4233 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 7:50 pm to
I dunno
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

I dunno

bunch of crazy knee jerk comments in here baws
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:54 pm to
They're gonna have a helluva time retrieving parts for the investigation. That whole area of the Bay has a nice thick layer of mud/silt sitting right beneath the surface. Cant even really wade fish that area because the silt is so bad
Posted by aileron
H-Town
Member since Apr 2018
246 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:02 pm to
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tterspeed

Why would shipping aircraft be more vulnerable than passenger?




For one thing, passenger aircraft are not allowed to ship bulk lithium ion batteries as cargo. The cargo operators have no such restriction. I see monthly FAA reports on Li-ion incidents in aircraft cabins and cargo pits. It's only a matter of time before a Li-ion fire takes down an aircraft. Remember the Valujet crash where the O2 generator fire burned through control cables?
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