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re: 7 in 10 Louisiana children are on Medicaid

Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:27 pm to
Its the only business where you have no idea wtf whats its going to cost you, where the bills will come from, or who's going to pay them
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:28 pm to
Too many staff wasting time on tik tok
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:29 pm to
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It costs a lot to run and staff a hospital. How much you think all the technology they have to use costs?
oh i know but there are just too many people, too. Nurses used to do everything but now there’s a tech or a cna for that

It gives people jobs but it also drives up the costs

When I worked at children’s hospital I did research for a Dr. I wasn’t really necessary either
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 9:32 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:29 pm to
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Its the only business where you have no idea wtf whats its going to cost you, where the bills will come from, or who's going to pay them


The best part is having insurance, finding an in network doctor and hospital, then being told that the anesthesiologist was not in network. Like WTF how
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:30 pm to
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Its the only business where you have no idea wtf whats its going to cost you, where the bills will come from, or who's going to pay them
Yep.

It is so stupidly convoluted.

The fix is to essentially remove insurance from general health care and save it for the reason insurance actually exists, critical life altering events.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:30 pm to
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The best part is having insurance, finding an in network doctor and hospital, then being told that the anesthesiologist was not in network. Like WTF how
yup, it’s such a mess - the whole thing
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:31 pm to
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oh i know but there are just too many people, too. Nurses used to do everything but now there’s a tech or a cna for that
At the same time, most hospitals are heavily understaffed.

It’s the weirdest situation.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:32 pm to
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frick you. The problem is American healthcare system. A family of four can easily pay over 20 thousand dollars. I guess you rather kids die than get adequate health care even if it’s from the gov


Yeah but 7 in 10? Where are the jobs that provide medical insurance?
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:32 pm to
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Most of the people I know on Medicaid choose to be so they don’t have to pay for their kids healthcare which is why they won’t get married.


Found out the other day one of my neighbors isn’t married
Living together with 2 kids over 15 years
Woman & kids on Medicaid & get food stamps
He has a good job but I guess they are fine with living off tax payers
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:33 pm to
MuH cAlIfOrNiA iS a shite HoLe
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:34 pm to
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gives people jobs but it also drives up the costs


Staffing is always an issue at most hospitals now. They have CNAs and techs so they can do the basic stuff (taking vitals, bed baths, etc) so the nurses can do the more skilled care that requires a nursing license (giving meds, treatments, etc). It def ain’t about “giving people jobs”. Hospitals across the nation are hurting baaaaaaaddddd financially so they will use the least amount of staff they can get away with to save money.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:34 pm to
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He has a good job but I guess they are fine with living off tax payers
report them - that is one thing the food stamp office takes seriously
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:34 pm to

One thing not mentioned at all in this thread is disability designates. And I guarantee we all know some and how much bullshite that can be.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77267 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:35 pm to
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The best part is having insurance, finding an in network doctor and hospital, then being told that the anesthesiologist was not in network. Like WTF how
The insurance model is absolutely to blame.

Insurance shouldn’t be used for every damn prescription or every single visit to a doctor.

That isn’t insurance.

It is like using your car insurance for oil changes or putting air in your tires.

We lucked out by having our kiddo at the university hospital my wife works at. Can’t imagine what it would be like otherwise.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2500 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:36 pm to
Our whole welfare/medicaid/disability system is fricked up. If you make a penny past a certain amount, you lose all your benefits. A large segment of the population is disincentivized to do better. A graduated system of aid based on income would be a lot better. More people wouldn’t be afraid to take that next step toward productive citizenship if they would only lose, say, 15% of their benefits at a time if they moved a step up the economic ladder. But if you go from $40,000 a year in government handouts to zero if you make a dollar more than that line the government has drawn, why the frick would you try harder?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:37 pm to
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They have CNAs and techs so they can do the basic stuff (taking vitals, bed baths, etc) so the nurses can do the more skilled care that requires a nursing license (giving meds, treatments, etc)
right, but back in the day the nurses did what the cna and techs do now also plus the other nurse duties
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:39 pm to
That will never happen. The big “fix” that got rammed through under Obama didn’t help anyone but health insurance companies who were handed a compulsory customer base on a silver platter.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:39 pm to
Did you tell him he's a rotten low down no good freeloading piece of shite?

shite like that is WAY too prevalent these days and the perpetrators need to be ridiculed constantly.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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60622 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:39 pm to
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One thing not mentioned at all in this thread is disability designates.
when my dad was alive he would apply for disability every year bc he was a paraplegic - but he was denied

Now every Tom, dick, and Harry has disability and Medicaid benefits
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2500 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:39 pm to
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right, but back in the day the nurses did what the cna and techs do now also plus the other nurse duties


“The other nurse duties” are a hell of a lot more complex than they were back in the day, and the amount of documentation and hoops you have to jump through due to lawsuits is also much greater.
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