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re: 55 year old lifeguard charged with murder after shooting 2 teens in Chicago

Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:23 pm to
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Unless they pulled a gun first. I am not saying they did. I can't tell from the video.
or a knife
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:26 pm to
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Whether they actually had a gun is irrelevant. The issue is whether a reasonable person would have felt threatened. Under those circumstances, I certainly would have.


It's relevant to me, but that's me.I'm not arguing law. If they don't have a gun and are backing away I'm not sure I can justify shooting both here.

Feeling threatened is good enough to shoot both? Need to understand why he felt threatened. As in exactly what was going on here. It would make sense to me if the first guy was pointing a weapon. I hope we find out soon what he was doing or what he was potentially holding.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:28 pm to
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to shoot both?


speculation but that leads me to believe that they had all had a previous encounter
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9603 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:28 pm to
It did look like they were going to blitz him, but it also looked like they had backed off some along with 2nd guy shot not being a guy who came at him. They also could have been doing something fairly innocent. Would have to have more info.

1st still stayed kind of close and head turned back so possibly could be seen still a threat if ever really one, but the 2nd shooting victim had never gotten that close to shooter and was not the one of the guys who went at the shooter.

Even if in heat of the moment after turning from first shooting he mistook the 2 victim for the second guy who approached him that second approacher had moved well away and the victim again was never that close to him including when shot. He should have been seen as far enough away without some other kind of trigger like reaching for a weapon, but that still leaves the fact that he wasn’t the second guy who approached the shooter by his bike.
This post was edited on 6/29/25 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19570 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:28 pm to
My man has PTSD or something. WTF
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:29 pm to
55 year old lifeguard sounds off to me right from the start. But I guess you can't let teenage girls do it at public pools anymore.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88873 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:31 pm to
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55 year old lifeguard sounds off to me right from the start.


if he works for the city that might be a cushy gig, I think LA city or county lifeguards can top out in the low six figures
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30965 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:32 pm to
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But I guess you can't let teenage girls do it at public pools anymore.

They'll let somebody drown so they can film it for tic tok
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
38002 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:32 pm to
Does dark shirt guy have something in his hand?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8485 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:33 pm to
Why would the youth aggressively approach the man while he’s busy fixing his bike tire?

You think he was just soliciting donations for his basketball team to go to nationals?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88873 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:33 pm to
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Does dark shirt guy have something in his hand?


backpack or fanny bag?
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:34 pm to
Can't really see...
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133528 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:35 pm to
Murky
This post was edited on 6/29/25 at 6:53 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88873 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:35 pm to
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Can't really see...


yep, going to be interesting to see how this plays out, especially if the dude had a gun in that bag
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133528 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:36 pm to
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They also could have been doing something fairly innocent.



Yeah, like attacking an old man, right ?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88873 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:37 pm to
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an old man


easy...
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64163 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:37 pm to


I love how they do everything possible to frame the incident as "child" vs adult and the child was acting purely out of "fear" and not like the typical Chicago 14-21 year old violent POS.
This post was edited on 6/29/25 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8485 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:39 pm to
Thank you, Paul Harvey.

Now we have the rest of the story.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28161 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

But I guess you can't let teenage girls do it at public pools anymore.

They'll let somebody drown so they can film it for tic tok



I was more concerned with the near certainty of them being raped by "teens".
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88873 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:42 pm to
assuming that's not fake, the lifeguard enforced the rules, his job, kids complied and got to swim but saw the need to antagonize the lifeguard after the pool was closed? not saying that warranted getting shot but will ultimately be filed as FAFO
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