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re: 53 carjackings in New Orleans since January 1st, 2022

Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294622 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:36 pm to
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I really hope you don't take out this rage on your man when he gets home from his shift at the coffee shop again. This NOLA violence has got to end. I'll pray for him.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
117784 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:37 pm to
It's starting to feel like 1986-1995 when it was like Dodge City. Except we can't find a police chief like Richard Pennington and we sure miss someone like Connick as the DA. The situation is deteriorating quickly.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27914 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:39 pm to
Obligatory “ETYLANolaIB…”
Posted by lion
Member since Aug 2016
816 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:45 pm to
Uptown may be safe compared to the rest of the city, but it is shite compared to a normal city, especially a normal city's "nicest" neighborhood. Even people on Walnut are having items stolen every day. The rest of uptown is only safer because cars cant drive down the 3rd world streets.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 12:46 pm
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2860 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:55 pm to
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we won't know if we don't try.

Just imagine the possibilities with a massive influx of right wing voters flooding New Orleans, voting out most of the politicians, outnumbering the moochers, and going super tough on crime and pro business.

The State would be changed massively for the better.

Come on over.


New Orleans' significance to the state has been decreasing for over a half century. Sorry to tell you that it is not as economically important to the state as it used to be. It's like Savannah is to Georgia, except there is no Atlanta in La to prop it up.

And why would I leave a nice place to move into a dangerous shithole? I can send my kids to public school and they can run the streets without fear of danger. But I'm supposed to pack it up and submit them to awfulness in order to "save New Orleans?"

Hmmm. No thanks, I'm good.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14113 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:09 pm to
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New Orleans' significance to the state has been decreasing for over a half century. Sorry to tell you that it is not as economically important to the state as it used to be.

Genuinely curious where you’re getting this idea from?
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19950 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 4:48 pm to
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Why not in Nola. Bring in the national guard to stand at every other corner for all I care. The cops are outnumbered and the government at all levels are against them.



ever heard of the 3rd reich? how about the ussr?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61261 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 4:49 pm to
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ever heard of the 3rd reich? how about the ussr?


I would take the La National guard here in a heartbeat
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26383 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 4:51 pm to
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New Orleans' significance to the state has been decreasing for over a half century. Sorry to tell you that it is not as economically important to the state as it used to be.


True. But that doesn't mean the state should stop caring about it. Just because it doesn't dominate the state's GDP anymore doesn't mean its failures aren't hugely embarrassing to the state of Louisiana.
Posted by Winstonscrabfingers
Member since Oct 2021
542 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 4:56 pm to
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WTH is going on in New Orleans?


Just had a thread deleted because some kid mentioned the answer to your question.
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2860 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:11 pm to
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New Orleans' significance to the state has been decreasing for over a half century. Sorry to tell you that it is not as economically important to the state as it used to be.

Genuinely curious where you’re getting this idea from?


New Orleans was a global commercial hub from the early 1800s to roughly the 1960s. One of the most important cities in the world and nation, much less the state. One could argue that the decline began mid 1800s, but that was a gradual one with occasional renewal periods (ie early 20th century with the fruit import magnates connected to banana republics).

The concept of NO as some "cultural" town didnt come into existence until New Orleans began to be outperformed by Houston, Atlanta, Dallas in the 1950s/60s. It was a re-branding from global commercial center to a tourism town (ie 3rd world unless you are Vegas)

While some geographical considerations limited New Orleans, there is no reason it could not have competed. New Orleans (and some state) leadership simply didnt want to compete. That would have meant giving up some of their power as new faces within the political/corporate world would be required to expand.

Simply due to its larger population from the earlier, more successful days, the New Orleans metro is still pretty important, but Orleans Parish is rotting. The requirement for a city center seems to be less of a thing these days (in many places around the country).

Oil and Gas are still numero uno for Louisiana's economy. Not saying that should be the case. Just that it is. New Orleans has very little to do with that anymore. It has the name recogntion but that's it.

The vaunted "culture" has become a laughable parody of itself. A caricature that exists and becomes more absurd as it tries to force the idea that it matters any more. It doesnt.

Ask someone in outlying parishes of the metro area if they give a shite about what's happening in New Orleans anymore. 9 out of 10 times, they'll say "No." GO outside that perimeter in Louisiana and it will be 10 out of 10.

Working outside the city limits but within the metro has become more possible and is becoming more regular as any business with more than 2 brain cells exits Orleans for surrounding areas.

Even if we suddenly had better leadership in the city and state, too many successful Southern cities/metros have exploded for NOLA to even have a chance at catching up. Charlotte, Nashville, Chattanooga, Tampa, Austin, Huntsville, Orlando, Jacksonville, at least 6 or 7 other places in TX.
NO still has the brand recognition in Louisiana, but the power is gone and the long term trend is very clear.

Read about and look at pics of New Orleans from the 1950s and then look at the 1970s. A different world. The spiral has quickened and continues to do so. The brief post-K period, roughly 2008-2015, is an exception, but the larger trend returned with vengeance. Any long term look at New Orleans' economic/fiscal/cultural importance is bleak circa 2022.



Posted by John_V
SELA
Member since Oct 2018
2030 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:28 pm to
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I’d imagine you think about crime when deciding about others things, like wearing a watch


Living in BR and frequenting NOLA often is the reason my gf and I don't justify nice designer watches, jewelry, purses. You can't even leave Lauberge without getting robbed let alone walk around Nola with $3k on your shoulder/wrist
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40158 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:29 pm to
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Even if we suddenly had better leadership in the city and state, too many successful Southern cities/metros have exploded for NOLA to even have a chance at catching up. Charlotte, Nashville, Chattanooga, Tampa, Austin, Huntsville, Orlando, Jacksonville, at least 6 or 7 other places in TX.


Agreed and this speaks to some of my posts in this thread.

Nola needs massive changea internally for sure, but also needs investment from outside to pay for fixing the crumbling shithole. The competition has blown by nola over the past few decades and the south has had a bit of a renaissance with places like Nashville, Atlanta, Texas, Charlotte, etc absolutely exploding in the past 15-20 years. New Orleans missed out on that renaissance. Why would any outside company put down roots and investment in new orleans when there's at least 25 other cities in the south that beat it in almost every metric?
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
18611 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:33 pm to
There’s really no good solution. People don’t want to move to a place with our crime to improve it, but the place won’t improve without those people moving here to change it.

I don’t know what the answer is, but something has to change. NOLA and the state are in real real trouble if something doesn’t.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 5:34 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119583 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:49 pm to
New Orleans is basically Savannah with sports teams (with the mercy of the Bensons)

That’s about as good as it’ll be in our lifetimes. Go look at the public companies list in New Orleans v other similarly sized cities. The City is closer to competing with Baton Rouge or Lafayette than Charlotte or Nashville, or even San Antonio.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:58 pm to
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New Orleans is basically Savannah with sports teams


yea. the only people mad about this are those with delusional expectations

Nola was never going to be more than a boutique tourism city. I've said that for years and it's still 100% accurate
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5438 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 6:00 pm to
Well said. The FAA listed top 50 airports with delayed 5G rollout. MSY nowhere to be found.

Once Gayle passes, Saints and Pels will not be feasible as the major sports don’t need 3rd world city.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2218 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 6:10 pm to
Why do New Orleans topics on here reach multiple pages? Just stop talking about it. We don't talk about your problems (I'm sure there are plenty). Just do us a favor and ignore the city. It clutters the board. Too bad moderators don't whack them immediately.
Posted by barbapapa
Member since Mar 2018
3797 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 6:14 pm to
Had a lot of fun days/nights/weekends in NOLA in the years following Katrina, don't think I even want to visit right now.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61261 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 6:14 pm to
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Ask someone in outlying parishes of the metro area if they give a shite about what's happening in New Orleans anymore. 9 out of 10 times, they'll say "No." GO outside that perimeter in Louisiana and it will be 10 out of 10.


You wrote a nice essay there, but I have to disagree with you on this part. I don't feel like spelling out why you are wrong so let's see if others help out.
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