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re: 4x4 1/2 ton truck towing capacity bullshite and other truck bullshite
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:14 am to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:14 am to Eli Goldfinger
The biggest issue I have found is not tow capacity, but rather the payload limits. If you get a nicely equipped truck and carry a family of four, you can't put much tongue weight on there. If towing is important, the GM twins have range issues with the lack of a big gas tank option.
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 5:19 am to Eli Goldfinger
I pulled a 7700 pound tractor with my Toyota 5.7 the other day, including up and down a bridge. It didn’t bother the engine and transmission at all. However, if I was towing something that heavy often, it would need airbags.
I tow a 4k pound boat a couple times a week, and you don’t know it’s back there.
I tow a 4k pound boat a couple times a week, and you don’t know it’s back there.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 5:24 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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That's a lot of words. Get a mid teens tuned and deleted 6.7 f250/350 for $35k and call it a day. That thing will go to 500k miles easily.
Maybe, maybe not. The problem with diesels is that everything on them is really expensive to fix. Fuel pumps, injectors, can all run you a pretty penny.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 5:28 am to Eli Goldfinger
This thread is embarrassing
Posted on 7/21/22 at 5:56 am to Eli Goldfinger
You didn't know that the towing numbers were different based upon engine and body configuration? Should have asked your husband for help.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:31 am to Eli Goldfinger
The thing about towing is that all of the trucks will eventually get its load moving, but controlling and stopping the load is what’s going to determine your towing experience. It’s no fun having to grip that steering wheel hard all day because the slightest wind or passing truck tries to force you out of your lane.
Why not look at 3/4 or 1 ton gas options? Ford made the 10 speed and the 7.3 gas available in 2020. If you find a long bed crew cab, that will have a 48 gal fuel tank for extended range. Even the base 6.2 engine will have more power for towing than the 1/2 ton options.
Unless the extra height or length would be a problem, why even bother with a 1/2 ton when a 3/4 or 1 ton would be heavier and more capable for what you want to do?
Why not look at 3/4 or 1 ton gas options? Ford made the 10 speed and the 7.3 gas available in 2020. If you find a long bed crew cab, that will have a 48 gal fuel tank for extended range. Even the base 6.2 engine will have more power for towing than the 1/2 ton options.
Unless the extra height or length would be a problem, why even bother with a 1/2 ton when a 3/4 or 1 ton would be heavier and more capable for what you want to do?
Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:50 am to Eli Goldfinger
I have 2021 F150 with the Max Tow Package. I was looking for a Super Duty when I found it. At the time SDs we’re hens teeth. I got it right before things wen crazy. It’s a towing machine.
It’s VIN tow rating is 11,300.
Most dealers only order a few with tow packages. They mostly have low rated tow caps.
Tow packages aren’t that expensive.
It’s VIN tow rating is 11,300.
Most dealers only order a few with tow packages. They mostly have low rated tow caps.
Tow packages aren’t that expensive.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:21 am to BuckyCheese
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easily
I want some buffer room.
I live and fish in some fairly mountainous areas.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:21 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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why even bother with a 1/2 ton when a 3/4 or 1 ton would be heavier and more capable for what you want to do?
3/4 ton gasoline trucks ain’t what you want. Pulling something heavy with 3/4 gas truck will get you about 1/3rd the fuel economy of a diesel
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:24 am to Cajun367
Used market may well be flooded with repos soon.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:25 am to This GUN for HIRE
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That’s not the Ecoboost. That’s the reg 6. The 3.5 Ecoboost can get up to 13k properly equipped, & normally around 11k.
No…it’s the ecoboost.
I’m aware on the numbers it puts up, but I haven’t seen those numbers pop up in any crew cab 4x4 configuration.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:27 am to Doctor Strangelove
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Diesel is your answer for towing. Ft-lbs of torque is twice the amount of gasoline engines. 5,500 lbs is really not much, even for a gas burner.
I checked out the Ram 1500 diesel.
The ones I saw are 6K max.
I would have guessed much more.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:30 am to nugget
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3/4 ton gasoline trucks ain’t what you want. Pulling something heavy with 3/4 gas truck will get you about 1/3rd the fuel economy of a diesel
Unless that Diesel is making money there isn’t anyway you come out ahead financially. Between the extra cost of the truck, fuel, and maintenance a gas burner is cheaper. I have had both and my 6.6 gas 2500 Silverado gets 17-18 MPG on interstate. I can get 10-11 towing my 29 ft camper as well.
The new 6.6 gasser GM is a really good motor. They paired it with the tried and true heavy duty 6 speed. These new trucks have 28” radiator that fixed over heating issues with the older 6.0 motor. I have been very pleased so far. Had it a year and a little over 17K miles on it. It’s designed to be a high mileage fleet truck. They expect these trucks to easily get 300k miles.
This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 7:39 am
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:33 am to Cajun367
This for instance the truck i bought new for 56k I found several 2 year old ones for 52k with 60k+ miles.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:34 am to Eli Goldfinger
2020 Sierra 4x2, 5.3, SB, SLE, 8 speed. Rated at 9600 lbs. I would never tow that much with it.
Generally speaking 4WD drive trucks are rated lower than 4x2. But if you pulling a boat out of a slick lunch they 4x4 would be better.
TFL is a really good YouTube channel that test trucks at their towing capacity on the gauntlet. They have some pretty interesting findings.
Generally speaking 4WD drive trucks are rated lower than 4x2. But if you pulling a boat out of a slick lunch they 4x4 would be better.
TFL is a really good YouTube channel that test trucks at their towing capacity on the gauntlet. They have some pretty interesting findings.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:37 am to Eli Goldfinger
Much of the information in your post is outdated
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:39 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Maybe now, but I’m looking 100% at 2019-2021 models.
Buying new is for suckers.
Last time I bought a truck was 2017. I had the option of paying about $37K for a new one or $33K for one with 100,000 miles.
I’m a sucker.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:41 am to Eli Goldfinger
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I have came across a few of the 5.0 equipped crew cab models with 9K maximums, but the norm seems to be 7K.
I pull a camper around with mine. It's probably 6500-7k and has zero problems. I also pull around a 50 horse tractor with no issues. It pulls pretty good but I wouldn't do this if I didn't have the trailer brakes hooked up on it. Pulling isn't the issue, it's stopping.
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:42 am to nugget
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my Toyota 5.7
I tow a 4k pound boat a couple times a week, and you don’t know it’s back there.
Over-used bullshite cliche
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:42 am to weagle99
I’m looking at 2019-2021 primarily.
Plug your vin into the link and see if your truck’s tow is what you expect.
Plug your vin into the link and see if your truck’s tow is what you expect.
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