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re: 300k Chinese nationals study in US universities compared to 1k Americans in China
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:16 pm to Odysseus32
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:16 pm to Odysseus32
It’s telling that the OP didn’t even entertain the idea that maybe American universities are just better than Chinese ones 
Like… duh? They have 3x more people than us and we have 100x better universities. Math adds up to me.
Like… duh? They have 3x more people than us and we have 100x better universities. Math adds up to me.
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Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Columbia University was notorious for having quotas on Jewish students back in the 30s, 40s and 50s.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:24 pm to RaoulDuke504
It sends them to spy and be already in the country as an asymmetrical warfare threat when they decide to invade and take over Taiwan.
Unless they are known dissidents with family arrested any Chinese here will always be first and foremost a loyal citizen of China.
Unless they are known dissidents with family arrested any Chinese here will always be first and foremost a loyal citizen of China.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:28 pm to Monahans
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He isn’t going after “Education” you useful idiot. He’s going after people actively seeking to destroy this country.
The scariest part of this statement is that you and millions of people believe this is true. You think this is truth within your heart of hearts. You believe that the administration is righteous and for the people and fighting for you. And they aren't.
And I feel bad for you. Because I can't say anything that's going to convince you otherwise. And it's just not true.
And I can't say much more than that.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:33 pm to Odysseus32
Can’t the same be said about you?
You and mmmmbeeeeer have zero willingness to even listen or debate
You and mmmmbeeeeer have zero willingness to even listen or debate
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:54 pm to Odysseus32
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Chinese nationals study here because we consistently welcome them and offer the greatest education. Part of that greatest education title is because of that demographic.
We were great before the Chinese started using us. 12 of the last 16.5 years of Dem pushing everything but America first has made us weaker.
quote:As far as Pushing out arab or Muslim foreign nationals here on student visas for being violent, bigoted, Hamas sympathizers, and criminals that is the farthest thing from being short sighted. It’s a privilege for them to be here. It is not a right for them. Diversity has been pushed by Dems to weaken us as a country not stronger. We were better off without the ton of illegals the last 4 years (better off before Obama’s and Biden’s autopen put Obama to shame) and better off before all the refugees by Obama and Biden offering nothing but problems and wanting us to change for them. We shake our heads at some of the problems Sweden, Germany, and France amongst others have with the muslim refugees not assimilating, knifing people, and raping girls; but we are not far off thanks to Biden and Obama and also allowing crappy people to remain here on student visas.
There has been some short sighted ignorant shite go on with this administration, but this near the top.
quote:That’s a very small part of the current Chinese students and the muslims. The Chinese students are mostly here for China, and the muslim students are here to play victim and bring their world to us. The more muslims we let in the more anti-semitism we see.
We are the greatest country because we develop the best minds, innovate greater than any other country, and research greater than anywhere in the world.
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:57 pm to RaoulDuke504
Well what the frick are the 1,000 idiots doing over there is my question?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:59 pm to dgnx6
And we probably have more Chinese restaurants per capita then China
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:01 pm to Odysseus32
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But why do they care about what religious group thinks what about another religious group? And why in the world would Harvard acquiesce to such an absurd request?
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Am I missing something?
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I don't watch the news
Look, I don't consume the news like a lot of people do. I don't watch shows on news channels. I couldn't tell you who works at Fox or CNN and I don't understand people who watch these personalities every night because 80% of it is bull shite, but I do follow current events.
In October of 2023 Hamas (Palestine) attacked Israel. Took some of their people for hostage. The youtube video has just about everything you need to know about it.
Israel had an aggressive response. And as usual Palestine (run by Hamas) flips the script and wants to know why Israel is bombing innocent people and killing kids (if I had to bet, I would say Hamas might have even purposely led Israel to think they were bombing a military base or something but it was actually a place with women and children.. I am just saying.. Hamas is a terrorist group for the most part so).
That eventually lead to Palestine sympathizers around college campuses protesting and pretty much interrupting parts of the universities people were protesting at.
Despite the fact these people have been fighting each other since Israel was established in the late 1940s, it is likely all the bullshite protest that went on most of 2024 was because there was a presidential election going on. Its common for shite to be made bigger than it should be during election years, but that is a different story all together.
I am not saying Israel is completely innocent. A fun fact, Israel is the only country in the world that is allowed to lobby within the US government so a lot of people frown on people protesting against Israel.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:28 pm to jizzle6609
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Well what the frick are the 1,000 idiots doing over there is my question?
It’s kids of Chinese elites who paid 50k to fly to California pop out a baby, and fly back to China to raise their kid to give them dual citizenship.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:31 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Your entire post is histrionic leftist bullshite as usual.
You daughterfrickers were silent for prior 4 years.
When was last time Harvard was considered a religious school like Liberty?
Why should taxpayer money go to help a private school like Harvard with a $50 billion endowment that refuses to treat students equally and allows students to be bullied based on their religion.
Harvard is not being stopped from doing what they do. They just have to do it with their own money, and they have a lot.
These actions are about no longer supporting anti-Americanism and terrorism like Obama and Biden’s autopen in the foreign nationals we allow in our country and our universities. It is also about not allowing students to follow the stalinist creed and violate the rights of other students to have different beliefs than the hamas supporting mob have and not protecting the rights of students who want to learn without violent protests impeding their right by taking over buildings and disrupting their education.
You daughterfrickers were silent for prior 4 years.
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Imagine if fricking Obama went after Liberty University like this. Holy fricking shite would all hell break loose on the right. Now? You motherfrickers are silent. You should be ashamed by this unprecedented authoritarian action.
When was last time Harvard was considered a religious school like Liberty?
Why should taxpayer money go to help a private school like Harvard with a $50 billion endowment that refuses to treat students equally and allows students to be bullied based on their religion.
Harvard is not being stopped from doing what they do. They just have to do it with their own money, and they have a lot.
These actions are about no longer supporting anti-Americanism and terrorism like Obama and Biden’s autopen in the foreign nationals we allow in our country and our universities. It is also about not allowing students to follow the stalinist creed and violate the rights of other students to have different beliefs than the hamas supporting mob have and not protecting the rights of students who want to learn without violent protests impeding their right by taking over buildings and disrupting their education.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:36 pm to Odysseus32
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The scariest part of this statement is that you and millions of people believe this is true. You think this is truth within your heart of hearts. You believe that the administration is righteous and for the people and fighting for you. And they aren't.
And I feel bad for you. Because I can't say anything that's going to convince you otherwise. And it's just not true.
And I can't say much more than that.
I am quite comfortable with this position. I was a liberal arts major at UT and the entire system was overrun with not just marxists, but miserable backbiting marxists who seemed to hate each other. The whole point for them is everything about our society needs to be destroyed. Burnt to the ground, millions of bodies stacked up. Thats what they want.
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:44 pm to RaoulDuke504
Why come here when they’re supposedly so much further advanced academically than the US?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:20 pm to lsusteve1
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Why come here when they’re supposedly so much further advanced academically than the US?
You actually answered your own question. Just getting into a Chinese university is extremely difficult because of the amount of competition to get accepted. There’s a lot of wealth in China and the wealthy, spoiled kids that couldn’t make the cut to get in over there come here. They get an education, enjoy a nice lifestyle and then return to work in their family business. Some stay here as well. There are many other reasons, too, but getting into school there is incredibly hard and exhaustive. China has the most high ranking universities in the world.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:03 pm to MardiGrasCajun
I’d be genuinely curious to hear China’s reaction if we said, nope, you’re all done.
Because if they complain, we could say, “So you mean you don’t have good enough schools for your own people? That’s embarrassing for you.”
Because if they complain, we could say, “So you mean you don’t have good enough schools for your own people? That’s embarrassing for you.”
Posted on 5/24/25 at 2:52 am to RaoulDuke504
300.000 thousand I wonder how many of that number are Chinese nationals frick that, taking an education back to use it against us all for money...yep
Posted on 5/24/25 at 3:14 am to RaoulDuke504
Let's do the math here:
1.4 billion people in China. There are 6 million Chinese Americans.
1,400,000,000/6,000,000 is 233x more Chinese in China than US. The ratio according to this post (if it's true) is 300x.
So, people in China are over represented versus Chinese American by 300/233 or 1.28x. That's not nearly as bad if you do some simple deductive reasoning, logic, and math. Personally it doesn't make sense as Chinese and Indians in the US are usually much richer and educated than the ones back in their homeland, and most have come here in the last 30 years. There are 60x as many Chinese in the US today in 2025 than in 1950 as China gets a little more money and can afford airfare, logistics. I would expect the ratio to favor Chinese Americans over Chinese as they are typically more successful than the Chinese back in China.
1.4 billion people in China. There are 6 million Chinese Americans.
1,400,000,000/6,000,000 is 233x more Chinese in China than US. The ratio according to this post (if it's true) is 300x.
So, people in China are over represented versus Chinese American by 300/233 or 1.28x. That's not nearly as bad if you do some simple deductive reasoning, logic, and math. Personally it doesn't make sense as Chinese and Indians in the US are usually much richer and educated than the ones back in their homeland, and most have come here in the last 30 years. There are 60x as many Chinese in the US today in 2025 than in 1950 as China gets a little more money and can afford airfare, logistics. I would expect the ratio to favor Chinese Americans over Chinese as they are typically more successful than the Chinese back in China.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 3:19 am
Posted on 5/24/25 at 3:21 am to dgnx6
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And it’s not like they are all at Harvard. There are Chinese students at LSU.
There was a Chinese girl in Kappa a couple of years ago.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 3:23 am to Odysseus32
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We aren't the greatest country in the world because we have Ol boy Landry workin the oil rigs. We are the greatest country because we develop the best minds, innovate greater than any other country, and research greater than anywhere in the world.
This is extremely true, but this site might be the worst demographic to try to convey this idea to. This concept will hit them like a rock on a windshield going 80 and just fly off and ignored as "false".
The US is so dominant because of mega-tech. There are only 7 companies that are worth over $1 trillion today. 7 of the 8 are US Mega-Tech. And not only are they worth more than $1 trillion. They are mostly worth $3 trillion each. Lapping the field entirely multiple times. Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, Apple, Nvidia, Googles, etc. Jensen Huang is a story of a Chinese man coming here and helping create a $3 trillion company that helps US lead.
Staying in the forefront of technological innovation (which is the AI race today, probably quantum computing in 10 years) is what determines what country remains the most dominant in the world. As of right now, the USA almost entirely dominates the tech field. There's no other country that even has 1/10th of what the US has when it comes to tech.
How this relates to China. Well China is showing some gains in the AI field. There's argument that they just took US equipment and tech and relabeled it, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if that is true or not. However, if we admit the best and brightest from China, then that tech innovation can stay here. If we reject them, well they might develop it in China.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 3:28 am
Posted on 5/24/25 at 3:43 am to MardiGrasCajun
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You actually answered your own question. Just getting into a Chinese university is extremely difficult because of the amount of competition to get accepted. There’s a lot of wealth in China and the wealthy, spoiled kids that couldn’t make the cut to get in over there come here. They get an education, enjoy a nice lifestyle and then return to work in their family business. Some stay here as well. There are many other reasons, too, but getting into school there is incredibly hard and exhaustive. China has the most high ranking universities in the world.
This is just flat out false. The US has by far the best universities in the world. There are so many Americans that don't even know this as they just don't keep up with this kind of stuff and make large assumptions. US has 55 of top 100 global universities.
US News ranking is considered the most "accepted" university ranking system in the world and in any discussion of rankings, US News is considered the standard go to. The US has 14 of top 20 global universities. China has 1. There are 12 US universities ranked ahead of China's best.
Another ranking service Shanghai-Ranking based in China has 8 US universities in their top 10. 16 of their top 20 ranked are US, so 80% of their top 20 global universities are US. The first Chinese University doesn't show up until 22nd. They have UC San Diego, UC SF and Washington University above their 1st placed university.
Times Higher Education is an England HQ'd company. All the reason to bias UK universities. They still have 7 of top 10 global uni's as US based, and 14 of top 20 as US based.
To be frank, I think they even underestimate US universities which would be hard to say with that percentage at the top. My reason is University of Toronto is ranked 17th in US News Global Ranking. Vandy is ranked 63rd. Rice is ranked 223rd. The average salary of a full time MBA grad right out of school is $150k for Rice and Vandy, which doesn't count that most get a signing bonus and end of year bonuses to put it likely over 200k. University of Toronto MBA average starting salary is $85k. So the 63rd and 223rd globally ranked USA universities are making over 75% more than the 17th globally ranked Canadian university. I'd use undergrad, but average earnings for fresh grads isn't usually tracked for undergrads. If you were going by strictly average earnings amongst graduates fresh out of college, US universities would probably make up 97 or 98 of the global top 100 universities. I'm not even kidding.
Essentially 4% global population, but 70% of top 20 global universities.
There isn't a lot of wealth in China either. Their GDP per Capita is $14,000. The US is $90,000. So the average American makes over 6x what the average China man does. The US has 4x as many millionaires as China despite having 1/5th the population.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 4:05 am
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