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re: 25 US cities where crime is soaring (1. Monroe, 10. Houma/Thib)

Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:57 am to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:57 am to
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Congrats on picking the 3 towns in America that are prob 90% white.


I didn't pick them, chief. The article writer did based on their violent crime rates.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 8:58 am
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:28 am to
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at the end of the day, the kids we "invest" in will still go home to broken homes run by uneducated people with generations of ignorance protruding, surrounded by the lower class mindset of the larger population of their area. the state can't fix that


You seem to be putting a lot of blame on the underclass. The truth is the underclass has always been with us and always will.

It’s only recently that the enlightened class killed religion and family structure for the lower classes, though.

It’s one thing for 140 IQ people to play with drugs and hedonism and then settle into a life of work and responsibility. They can even throw in a divorce while they’re at it without causing any real troubles, because both spouses are quite worldly and self-sufficient.

Now apply that same hedonism and moral relativism to a lower-IQ, resource-poor population, and you end up with rampant single motherhood, lifelong drug addictions, and just general shittiness and decline that the higher classes then spend money trying to insulate themselves from.

Combine that with social spending and policy that brings out the worst in people, and you have the present.

Edited to not appear to blame Democrats
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 10:08 am
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74077 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:46 am to
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It’s one thing for 140 IQ progressives to play with drugs and hedonism and then settle into a life of work and responsibility. They can even throw in a divorce while they’re at it without causing any real troubles, because both spouses are quite worldly and self-sufficient.
I mean you kinda had me with your argument until you singled out progressives for this as if rich/smart conservatives don't engage in such immoral behavior at a similar rate

money def allows for far more bad decision making to result in less consequences though but I don't think politics has anything to do with that
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:02 am to
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I mean you kinda had me with your argument until you singled out progressives for this as if rich/smart conservatives don't engage in such immoral behavior at a similar rate


I honestly didn’t mean to make it partisan.

The enlightened class in 2018 are all progressive in this context.

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money def allows for far more bad decision making to result in less consequences though but I don't think politics has anything to do with that

100%

It’s money and brains that make the difference.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 10:04 am
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38239 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:13 am to
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Investing as in efficient/smart spending for long term positive outcomes not throwing away money at the problem



I don't think they even throw money at it anymore. The politicians simply funnel money to their cronies via pet projects.

It aint lack of funding. Its lack of proper spending. and that's at every level from state legislature to local school boards.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96254 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:22 am to
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I see 0% creativity going on by those in power to fix the economy. The state simply cannot continue to live and die based on how the oil and riverboat casino industries are doing. These stats should embarrass most of the residents but they absolutely won’t. Louisiana ranks at or near the bottom in education, healthcare, and opportunity and near the top in obesity, stds, and crime.


We should be pushing for more tourism. New Orleans is a fine draw on its own, but straight tourism (the state has Civil War battlefields, significant political tourism sites in Baton Rouge, particularly the state capitol building, and many others), plus recreational fishing/hunting that we could make MUCH easier for out of state folks if we wanted to.

But, what do I know? I'm just a lawyer. I'm not an "expert" on the economy or tourism.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
7088 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:57 am to
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simply, our underclass has grown too large to contain and it's wielding public policy and has overtaken state spending


We have to gas them.

But seriously, making sterilization mandatory for welfare recipients is eventually going to have to happen. They are reproducing at a higher rate than the productive folks.

That, or stop giving them raises to make more babies.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29862 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:17 am to
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But seriously, making sterilization mandatory for welfare recipients is eventually going to have to happen. They are reproducing at a higher rate than the productive folks.


Yeah thats never going to happen.

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or stop giving them raises to make more babies.


Much better and logical solution.
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3657 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:20 am to
That’s what’s so crazy about the state of Louisiana. We have so much poverty in this state it’s insane. On the flip side we also have a lot of wealthy people here. The middle class in Louisiana has shrunk tremendously over the years.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
64389 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:40 am to
So Funroe is now Gunroe?
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25933 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:46 pm to
As a Houma native it is crazy to witness the explosion of Heroin in this town along with illegal immigrants. The east side has turned into little Mexico.
Posted by Day Wisher
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2010
400 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:52 pm to
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we are a microcosm of what's coming for the rest of the US


Maybe, but I tend to believe that Louisiana is simply falling behind.

Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
11250 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:32 pm to
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So Funroe is now Gunroe?




I am so pumped that all this negative shite keeps coming out about Monroe because I just moved back here from Texas for work (that's kinda an oxymoron given everybody from LA moves to TX but I did that 25 years ago). Will be moving the family and getting a house when they are done with school in June so hopefully all the prospective home buyers moving here will read this report and keep looking elsewhere.

I want my pick of cheap housing because in North Monroe, the only crime you have to worry about is maybe some punk kids rolling your house.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:33 pm to
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June so hopefully all the prospective home buyers moving here will read this report and keep looking elsewhere.

I want my pick of cheap housing because in North Monroe, the only crime you have to worry about is maybe some punk kids rolling your house.


Yeah why would you want responsible and law abiding home buyers? Housing can just get cheaper and cheaper and invite more low income criminals in.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:42 pm to
I hear ya. Im ready to sell out and head out.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
11250 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:54 pm to
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Yeah why would you want responsible and law abiding home buyers?


Oh I would welcome them after I close on my new home.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71200 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:24 pm to
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Almost half of LSU grads bolt to the lone star state and y'all are paying for it.


Well, around 35-40% of LSU grads were actually FROM Texas to begin with and payed out of state tuition to be here, so technically, THEY paid for it.
Posted by Oneforthemoney
A town near you, la
Member since Dec 2013
2558 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Logan Utah (14) doesn't belong on this list. The rate may be up, but look at the total number.

5-yr. violent crime rate change: +38.8%

•2011 violent crime rate: 47.7 per 100,000 (total: 61)
•2016 violent crime rate: 66.2 per 100,000 (total: 90)

That town is probably safer than any town in Louisiana


Wonder what the demographics is for that town.
Posted by Oneforthemoney
A town near you, la
Member since Dec 2013
2558 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 1:13 pm to
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quote: wrong on the first 2. i think healthcare and education are our 2 biggest spending items and i'd imagine as a % of budget we spend more on those things (combined) than most states when I say invest I don't necessarily mean budgetary spending in real dollars. I mean it from a more fundamental standpoint. Investing as in efficient/smart spending for long term positive outcomes not throwing away money at the problem


Looking at the states biggest expenditure every year, i noticed that the largest was basically free healthcare for the poor. I read an article as well that stated that the way Louisiana pays providers is different in how the norm is. If they were to fix that and adjust it to the norm, there would be a significant reduction in what is paid and the state would be in a better financial situation. Would the politicians find a way to throw money away/ waste it? Not out of the question that they wouldn't.
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Oneforthemoney
A town near you, la
Member since Dec 2013
2558 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 1:16 pm to
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quote: Anyone who can’t see that the state is in significant trouble is either retarded, blind, or loves living in denial. correct quote: This is a top-to-bottom issue. incorrect this is a bottom to top issue simply, our underclass has grown too large to contain and it's wielding public policy and has overtaken state spending we cannot afford to support the underclass anymore and the underclass is not able to provide economic productivity we need quote: Louisiana ranks at or near the bottom in education, healthcare, and opportunity and near the top in obesity, stds, and crime. underclass, underclass, underclass, underclass, underclass, and....underclass


We have a lot of obama voters living in the state.
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