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Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:21 am to weagle1999
I think the OP is going for the "1945 US has the gigantic industrial base and can recover its losses, while 2025 can't even make a canteen"angle. The problem with that is the 2025 military could completely eliminate the 1945 industrial capability on the first day.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:21 am to Fat and Happy
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It would be comical.
Probably. But the old army starts with a much stronger manufacturing base, (probably) better commanders, more of a willingness to sustain casualties. and Hawaii. Quantity has a quality all its own and all that.
Just a thought exercise.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 9:23 am
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:23 am to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:24 am to weagle1999
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Good grief man, this is just a casual message board meant for random topics.
well dude, its like you cant understand basic concepts and technology.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:25 am to weagle1999
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How would this play out?
With the admin doing everyone a favor and wacking this thread.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:28 am to weagle1999
The WWII navy would be destroyed in a day.
A modern aircraft career strike group could defeat WWII Japan in a month.
A modern aircraft career strike group could defeat WWII Japan in a month.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:28 am to weagle1999
When is this battle taking place? Then or now? If then, how does the lack of GPS, cell, internet, etc impact the modern forces?
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:29 am to lsu777
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i mean you do understand that 1 f22 shot down 25 F15eagles without even being seen right?
Hyperbole much? 1 F22 doesn't carry enough armament to shoot down 25 planes at one time. Now if you mean it was in 25 engagements and won them all, well that's a different story. So not 100% accurate, but yeah....
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 9:34 am
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:29 am to weagle1999
The ww2 guys fought and won and none of them needed a disability check participation trophy after
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 9:32 am
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:32 am to weagle1999
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Probably. But the old army starts with a much stronger manufacturing base, (probably) better commanders, more of a willingness to sustain casualties. and Hawaii. Quantity has a quality all its own and all that.
Just a thought exercise.
but its not a thought exercise because
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I think the OP is going for the "1945 US has the gigantic industrial base and can recover its losses, while 2025 can't even make a canteen"angle. The problem with that is the 2025 military could completely eliminate the 1945 industrial capability on the first day.
same with the 1990 scenerio
literally 1 squad of f22 and 1 of f35 could take out most of the 1990 aircraft within 96 hours with the only limiting factor being the ability to reload and get back out there.
same with new class of subs and even air craft carriers not to mention the destroyers
you are not understanding the advancements in avionics at all. not to mention in advancements in radar tech, ability to shoot down missiles, lasers, drones etc
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:33 am to lsu777
God damn
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:33 am to Lonnie Utah
whatever you linked is blocked for me and yea...it was 108-0 and yea they were seen only when they wanted to be seen.
now that was almost 20 years ago and avionics have gotten much better for the F-15 but also much better for the f22 too.
now that was almost 20 years ago and avionics have gotten much better for the F-15 but also much better for the f22 too.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:35 am to lsu777
It was a USAF Col talking about fighting the Raptor in the F15. Under certain circumstances the F-15's were able to get kills against them. He was in a lecture about the F15 fighting Indian AF Su-30MKIs. and how the used their experiences vs the Raptors to win vs the AF Su-30MKIs, which are. on paper, "superior"...
As I said, 1 F22 doesn't carry enough armament to shoot down 25 planes at one time. Now if you mean it was in 25 engagements and won them all, well that's a different story. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying you need to be clear about what you're talking about.
As I said, 1 F22 doesn't carry enough armament to shoot down 25 planes at one time. Now if you mean it was in 25 engagements and won them all, well that's a different story. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying you need to be clear about what you're talking about.
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:59 am to weagle1999
Do you even "anti-ship missile", bro? One modern destroyer could take out half of a WW2 fleet without ever being in range of their guns. Imagine what 4 F/A-18's would do to WW2 fighters. The WW2 group wouldn't even know that the other was there until it was too late.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:05 am to Lonnie Utah
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It was a USAF Col talking about fighting the Raptor in the F15. Under certain circumstances the F-15's were able to get kills against them. He was in a lecture about the F15 fighting Indian AF Su-30MKIs. and how the used their experiences vs the Raptors to win vs the AF Su-30MKIs, which are. on paper, "superior"...
As I said, 1 F22 doesn't carry enough armament to shoot down 25 planes at one time. Now if you mean it was in 25 engagements and won them all, well that's a different story. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying you need to be clear about what you're talking about.
it was a simulation without real weapons and if you are being honest it was 108-0
you can google the operation and see. and the only time the f-15 was able to get kills is when the f22 essentially allowed them to and they were doing things like putting the non stealth tanks on etc.
again it was an operation and not live.
and when i posted it, i wasnt trying to get into all the details
because the whole original post was just dumb including the follow up about 1990 but you already know that 
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:05 am to weagle1999
I think that he means all things being equal... Like for example, they all have the same style of tanks, aircraft, ships etc...
I believe this is more of a mentality and determination question.
I believe this is more of a mentality and determination question.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:11 am to WWII Collector
quote:if both sides were equally equipped (either with WWII-era or contemporary weaponry) the 1945 force would absolutely dominate
I think that he means all things being equal... Like for example, they all have the same style of tanks, aircraft, ships etc...
I believe this is more of a mentality and determination question.
we were built differently back then
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:12 am to weagle1999
The "bringing a knife to a gun fight" scenario never ends well for the knife carrier.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:13 am to udtiger
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Have you seen The Final Countdown?
Think of that, but not just a single ship.
Modern Aircraft carrier gets transported back to WW2?
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