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re: 2022 income needed to afford a typical home in top metros at 30% of HH income

Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8147 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:49 pm to
When they say 30%, do they mean the mortgage takes 30%?

Or mortgage, utilities, insurance, everything takes 30%?
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9316 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:52 pm to
Columbus, OH is a “top” metro?
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3041 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:04 pm to
Why does the left column say "rank" when this is just an alphabetical list?
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5312 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:10 pm to
When trump had a supply side problem he addressed the problem quickly.

Trump knew how to pressure foreign entities to get us what we needed. And if he didn’t like their response, he moved to fund the solution in America. He spent like money wouldn’t run out but he made sure issues were directly rectified to keep everything moving.

Biden just scratches his tiny nuts and says oh well. Basically encourages the problem to get worse.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18399 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:11 pm to
“Typical” home means guttershit. If you’re a college graduate, two-person income family, you need a lot more than those incomes to afford a home in those areas to meet an appropriate standard of living.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6614 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:46 pm to
I'm betting a "typical home" is gonna be wildly different in each of those areas.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:48 pm to
No fricking way 57k was the number for Miami in 2020. No fricking way
Posted by tterrific
Member since Sep 2022
649 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

Home prices have to come down


The cost of a house 200 years ago was about $5000.

Inflation lasts for the life of a country, and sometimes beyond.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75198 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Home prices have to come down.


Define have to?

We’re still several years away from adequate inventory, especially in top 10 markets.

They’ll more than likely appreciate at a more realistic and modest 3-4% annually, not the 20 plus percent that we have seen the past couple of years.
Posted by jsquardjj
Member since Oct 2009
1317 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:14 pm to
The past two years, almost all new homes in my area have gone for 700-800k. These were usually purchased by dual income families who were close to their max. They were built and purchased during a time when interest rates were between 2-3%. Imagine these same home prices, now seeing a 5.5-7% rate. On a 800k mortgage, that is a substantial amount more a month. With less demand for a home in this range, it should certainly drive prices down - even with low inventory.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32452 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:21 pm to
Also, note these are for metros, not cities. So, they are including suburbs.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75198 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:21 pm to
So by your logic they will come down since rates are high but when the rates go back down the home prices are going to go back up?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

It's almost like giving out vast sums of government money causes prices to soar.

Someone should look into this.


It wasn't smart, but there's a shite ton more to the problem
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55616 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

“Typical” home means guttershit. If you’re a college graduate, two-person income family, you need a lot more than those incomes to afford a home in those areas to meet an appropriate standard of living.

yeah these numbers aren't great because they don't take unlivable ghetto neighborhoods into account

a place like austin tx or portland me has a much higher percentage of livable area than a baton rouge or baltimore
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

So by your logic they will come down since rates are high but when the rates go back down the home prices are going to go back up?


That's kind of exactly how borrowing rates work
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75198 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:30 pm to
I get that, but the post doesn’t acknowledge annual appreciation rates. Home prices are more than likely going to stabilize, regardless of interest rates.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
5592 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:48 pm to
Facts I heard he's looking in old metarie.
Get in now before the market trends up
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

Home prices are more than likely going to stabilize, regardless of interest rates


Id bet a large sum home prices will be lower in 18 months when they are now
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3805 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:54 pm to
30% of gross pay is insane.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29506 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:55 pm to
List is alphabetized, what a shitty way to sort

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