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re: 2017 Death Rates per the CDC
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:26 am to uway
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:26 am to uway
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Is it more likely that someone dies from it without it being diagnosed or someone has it, gets over it, and is never diagnosed?
You know the former is far far less likely than the latter, drastically less likely.
And if that one person got over it without spreading it to anyone, it wouldn't be an issue.
You're walking right into the entire point. If we don't know who got infected and recovered, we don't know how many they infected and how many of those are infecting others and how many are now at risk of death because of it. The entire point is that the numbers are not accurate so this comparison doesn't hold much weight.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:27 am to Pintail
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Heart disease: 1773
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Intentional self-harm (suicide): 129
These two plus murder will rise during the recession we're putting ourselves into.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:29 am to RollTide1987
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Get this reasoned shite out of here, man. We're trying to remain panicked so we can continue to jerk off to the drama it is stirring up.
I believe he is saying that thanks to measures in place we are not seeing catastrophe here.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:31 am to Pintail
In 2017 there were 16,214 murders in the US.
Let’s overreact to that.
Let’s overreact to that.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:31 am to SulphursFinest
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But corona virus is just getting started lol. That’s the point of keeping it from spreading. Obviously the more people who get it the more people who die. Don’t be dumb.
No one actually knows whether it’s just getting started or is winding down.
Either way the death toll doesn’t equate to the hysteria.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:39 am to PorkSammich
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No one actually knows whether it’s just getting started or is winding down
Except for the majority of all the doctors, medical professionals, and scientist that have studied this stuff their entire life, who are telling us it is just getting started.
you are right no one knows
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:40 am to TH03
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The entire point is that the numbers are not accurate so this comparison doesn't hold much weight
Except that we can conclude the virus isn't nearly as deadly as initially feared. We should also be able to draw some conclusions about the number of people likely to need to be in a hospital under various scenarios.
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You're walking right into the entire point. If we don't know who got infected and recovered, we don't know how many they infected and how many of those are infecting others and how many are now at risk of death because of it.
Nothing we are doing now will STOP the spread of this thing. We would have needed hard quarantines last month, and that still might not have done it. We need to accept that we are lucky it isn't as bad as thought, go on living our lives, and hope for a vaccine soon so that the elderly don't have to live in fear.
Do you really favor extended liberty-restricting and economically destructive measures to marginally limit the spread or "flatten the curve" for this thing, if the numbers don't get drastically worse in the next week or so?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:43 am to Pintail
Damn, Heart disease and Cancer is extremely high. Kinda scary really.
Also if this is accurate, the US is killing it with the corona so far. Everyone was fearful what happened to Italy would happen to us. So far that does not look to be the case at all.
Also if this is accurate, the US is killing it with the corona so far. Everyone was fearful what happened to Italy would happen to us. So far that does not look to be the case at all.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:45 am to Pintail
Feel free to add these to your list, especially if/when martial law is imposed and it literally becomes against the law to live your life:
480,000 per year die from cigarettes, including 41,000 from second hand smoke. It’s still not against the law to buy or sell cigarettes, or even use them in most public places.
More than 35,000 ppl die per year from motor vehicle accidents. It’s still not against the law to operate a motor vehicle.
480,000 per year die from cigarettes, including 41,000 from second hand smoke. It’s still not against the law to buy or sell cigarettes, or even use them in most public places.
More than 35,000 ppl die per year from motor vehicle accidents. It’s still not against the law to operate a motor vehicle.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:45 am to mindbreaker
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Except for the majority of all the doctors, medical professionals, and scientist that have studied this stuff their entire life, who are telling us it is just getting started.
You mean the same professionals that were unprepared for this type of event and haven't built up the necessary supplies and test kits. This is pure negligence on so many levels.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:52 am
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:52 am to Pintail
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You mean the same professionals that haven't prepared for this type of event and don't have the public's necessary number of testing kits. The ones that you are claiming is so unprepared. This is pure negligence on so many levels.
Do you even understand what a novel virus is? apparently not so it is a disease that exists only in animals. There are literally hundreds of these things we don't have tests or preparations for the the simple reason it is extremely rare for it to make the jump from animals to humans.
There is no way to predict if or when that will ever happen. So essentially you are ranting and raving about people not being able to predict the future about a possibility that is so rare that there is no way to actually predict it. Nice logic there hammer...but please continue with your ignorant outrage
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:53 am to Pintail
How do you prepare for something you didn’t know existed?
Lmfao
Lmfao
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:54 am to mindbreaker
Except for the majority of all the doctors, medical professionals, and scientist that have studied this stuff their entire life, who are telling us it is just getting started. you are right no one knows
They are covering their asses bc they got blindsided.
China was hiding information on this so we really don’t know how long it’s been around. It’s possible this has been all over the world for months.
They are covering their asses bc they got blindsided.
China was hiding information on this so we really don’t know how long it’s been around. It’s possible this has been all over the world for months.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:56 am to mindbreaker
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There is no way to predict if or when that will ever happen. So essentially you are ranting and raving about people not being able to predict the future about a possibility that is so rare that there is no way to actually predict it.
Then why the hell are we to believe these "professionals" and all the mass hysteria over this. You are making my point.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:57 am
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:58 am to Pintail
Our first reported cases was mid January and we have 116 deaths. The virus began in October of last year. Now people are saying we’re going to have a 4-week nationwide quarantine?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:59 am to Pintail
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Then why the hell are we to believe these "professionals" and all the mass hysteria over this. You are making my point.
Not at all you are missing the point.
Not being able to predict the unpredictable does not equal incompetence in regards to the proper way to handle a pandemic.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:00 am to Pintail
We destroyed our economy bc the experts told us to. Experts told us we couldn’t hug people with AIDS, that it would become pneumonic. They told us the world will be frozen over by 2010. This is so dumb
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:02 am to mindbreaker
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Do you even understand what a novel virus is? apparently not so it is a disease that exists only in animals.
Please, please stop repeating this. It's not "just in animals". It's simply a new virus that hasn't been detected before.
If someone were to walk out of the Amazon rainforest with a virus that had never been detected, it would be a novel virus whether it came from an animal or not.
Hell, a new strain of an existing virus is technically a novel virus.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 9:04 am
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:02 am to SabiDojo
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The virus began in October of last year.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/03/16/coronavirus-fact-check-where-did-covid-19-start-experts-say-china/5053783002/
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putting its origin in late November or early December 2019.
but by all means keep making shite up
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:02 am to mindbreaker
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Not being able to predict the unpredictable does not equal incompetence in regards to the proper way to handle a pandemic.
Agreed. However, it is grossly negligent to convince the masses that this is going to do anything close to what any of the listed death rates are when we know nothing about it.
The fact that the local governments have mandated shutdowns the way they have is absurd.
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