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re: 2017 Death Rates per the CDC

Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12161 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:22 am to
WHO Italy Stats

quote:

The reason why he didn’t because it is up 20% compared to normal for them.



The reason I didn't is because I didn't have time, but since you want to see it here you go.

2014 Italy Deaths
heart disease- 119k
stroke- 60k
cancer- 65k
Alzheimer and dementia- 24k
respiratory- 18k
diabetes- 18k
liver disease- 6k

Per Day
heart disease- 328
stroke- 164
cancer- 180
Alzheimer and dementia- 65
respiratory- 49
diabetes- 49
liver disease- 16


Do you want me to extrapolate that to compare it to US population? I don't think this is going the direction you wish it was.

This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 10:32 am
Posted by saminex
Member since Feb 2005
778 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:36 am to
You realize that the numbers are logarithmic and not linear and that if we don't take precautions those counts will double in the next three days and then double again three days after.

To view this as a snapshot rather than the start of something gravely serious is foolhardy. Just wait until someone you love has trouble breathing and has no access to medical attention and then tell me if your justifications make sense
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:39 am to
are any of these causes of death transmittable to other people?
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12161 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:40 am to
logarithmic =/= will double in the next three days and then double again three days after
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:46 am to
quote:

view this as a snapshot rather than the start of something gravely serious is foolhardy. Just wait until someone you love has trouble breathing and has no access to medical attention and then tell me if your justifications make sense





When it doent happen you folks will scream from the rafters about the success of authoritarian control and how it saved us from a mass extinction event. Drama is drama.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11928 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:15 am to
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Just wait until someone you love has trouble breathing and has no access to medical attention and then tell me if your justifications make sense


Sorry I don’t buy this as a justification to sacrifice individual liberties and freedoms. This is not Ebola or SARS. There is zero justification for the amount of government overreach occurring
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84835 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:18 am to
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Just wait until someone you love has trouble breathing and has no access to medical attention and then tell me if your justifications make sense


Do know what kind of governments take away freedom, trample on the constitution, enact quarantines and martial law in order to save lives? Totalitarian ones.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12161 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:19 am to
The number of death certificates mentioning alcohol more than doubled from 35,914 in 1999 to 72,558 in 2017, the year in which alcohol played a role in 2.6% of all deaths in the United States.

or

Alcohol accounted for 199 deaths per day in the US.

Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11928 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:21 am to
Whichever causes more fear
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6887 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:23 am to
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Okay. Do you want me to use China's numbers that are on the back end of the "exponential" curve?


Yeah buddy...and China quarantined 200 million fricking people for 45 days.

What part of this don't you guys get?
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart of the Big Sleazy
Member since Oct 2008
3838 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:57 am to
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You mean the same professionals that were unprepared for this type of event and haven't built up the necessary supplies and test kits. This is pure negligence on so many levels.


This has to rank on the Tiger Droppings wall of shame as a Top 10 stupidest post ever. And that is a monumental level of stupid.

We’re supposed to spend untold amounts of money stockpiling supplies for something that doesn’t exist. What the hell do we stockpile? How are hospitals, many of which are break even enterprises, pay for billions of dollars of said supplies?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91676 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 12:16 pm to
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What event or number with Covid would make you say ok this is a bug deal? My guess is nothing.


Well why is it a big deal now? Obviously no number makes you think any thing else is a big deal. When we have years of data pointing out how much more deadly these other things are.

Yet I bet all of you do shite in your lives that could contribute to these things.
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