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re: 2012 Nissan Altima, change CVT transmission fluid?
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:58 pm to FCP
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:58 pm to FCP
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Truth. Drove a 2009 Altima for 160K miles. It was on transmission number 3 when I sold it, and it was ready for number 4.
I had to sadly give up on my 2016 Sentra after 120k miles when I was told the transmission went out (didn’t replace it before).
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:58 pm to goofball
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Toyota got around this in their Prius and Corolla
The Prius has an e-CVT. Completely different.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:58 pm to NATidefan
Had 2 Altimas, thankfully down to 1.
If transmission has a complete actual dipstick, then change the fluid. Otherwise, if it only has the top part (essentially a plug), then don't. Be sure to use the correct fluid as well.
If transmission has a complete actual dipstick, then change the fluid. Otherwise, if it only has the top part (essentially a plug), then don't. Be sure to use the correct fluid as well.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:59 pm to NATidefan
The earlier CVT Nissan had troubles with was through model year 13 I think. I've driven the wheels off a 14 & a 17 with CVTs without a single hiccup. I think if your 12 has made it this far it got the kinks worked out. I would just keep on trucking with it.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:00 pm to S1C EM
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The Jatco trannys are problematic
Jatco CVTs.
Jatco traditional transmissions are bomb proof.
My neighbor has killed one in an XD, but that was after repeatedly towing his escavator, the machine itself was double his towing capacity
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:04 pm to S1C EM
That's what I gathered from just reading. That problems don't really come from changing it, it's if you haven't and it gets gunked up or has already developed a issue.
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There's a lot of urban legend around changing the transmission fluid in your vehicle. The biggest legend is if the fluid hasn't been changed in a long time, it shouldn't be because it's old.
That's not really true, but here's what IS true. If the valve body gets all gunked up with transmission fluid that's damaged, the driver could lose the ability to shift between gears.
And that's why so many people believe that changing old transmission fluid can cause it to slip. Want to avoid that whole dilemma altogether? Simply change your transmission fluid regularly and you won't have to worry about it!
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:05 pm to NATidefan
I don’t think Nissan appreciates how many sales they’ve likely lost in the past decade because of the CVT issues. Mildly informed buyers are staying far away from Nissan now.
There has been a huge demographic shift in typical Nissan buyers over that time. It’s no coincidence. Nissan is not perceived to be as good as most other brands anymore.
There has been a huge demographic shift in typical Nissan buyers over that time. It’s no coincidence. Nissan is not perceived to be as good as most other brands anymore.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:21 pm to NATidefan
Do not flush it. Drain the pain, refill, do that every 100 miles 6 times. You’ll be good then. Fluid doesn’t last forever and flushing will knock loose particles that can blow your tranny. You just want to cycle out all of the old fluid, draining it from the pain will not get all the fluid out at once, but everytime new fluid is added, it’ll eventually cycle out all of the old.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:28 pm to NATidefan
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That problems don't really come from changing it,
Problems do come from changing the fluid in a transmission that the clutch packs or brake bands are worn. The material from those worn parts is suspended in the fluid and actually helps the trans continue to work.
Transmission fluid is nothing more than a type of hydraulic fluid and does not go bad unless overheated or contaminated and by that point the damage is already done to the transmission.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:49 pm to NATidefan
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Has 130.
Had 100 when we got it and the fluid was really clean, so didn't change it then.
I just planned to have it changed when it got to 130.
Do the drain and fill and avoid flushing the system with that many miles.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:54 pm to NATidefan
My daughter has a 2017, I think and the cvt is garbage. Yes change the fluid, but there is an additive called Jilcat Proline that will extend the life of the trans and stop or prevent all the slippin/ shuddering issues.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:56 pm to coonarse
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Was told something similar with a Tundra - bought it used, figured I would change the trans fluid & filter- mechanic said it is a sealed system, and if no issues, then to leave it.. he had no reason to mislead me - it cost him business to say no
You should really service that Tundra transmission.
It is not “sealed” and the life of the fluid will definitely dictate the life of the entire unit.
If you dig deep in Toyotas service recommendations they recommend changing the fluid every 60k if towing. I would drop the pan and change the filter and pan gasket. at 100k also.
I serviced my buddies 2008 4.7 at 190k and the fluid was dirty and there was lots of soot in the valve body and metal sludge on the pan magnets. Gasket was also starting to seep a little.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:56 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
The best thing you can do with an Altima with a CVT is get rid of it.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:56 pm to NATidefan
Newer model CVTs are much better than years ago. I have owned several very high mileage Altima and never had a transmission issues. Until last month. My 2016 failed at about 115,000 miles.
Never changed the fluid in any except the first two Altimas I owned. Both shifted funny after the flush do never did it again.
Nissan North America paid half for my replacement. My out of pocket was about $2,400 with taxes.
The week my car was in the shop, I drove my wife's 2020 Silverado. I noticed a weird shuddering and hard shifting. Torque converter had to be replaced with only 24,000 miles. Luckily under warranty.
Never changed the fluid in any except the first two Altimas I owned. Both shifted funny after the flush do never did it again.
Nissan North America paid half for my replacement. My out of pocket was about $2,400 with taxes.
The week my car was in the shop, I drove my wife's 2020 Silverado. I noticed a weird shuddering and hard shifting. Torque converter had to be replaced with only 24,000 miles. Luckily under warranty.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:01 pm to Unobtanium
Ok, so I drove it today when I got home. No issues, no slipping, shifts fine, no indication of any issue.
I checked the fluid. It still looks pretty clean, but maybe not as much as before. It's clear fluid, but wipes on a paper towel and is a just a little bit of brown tint to it, very slight. Like vegetable oil color.
No record on car fax specifically of it ever being changed or the transmission changed.
I don't know. It was a rebuilt we got from my BIL who buys salvage vehicles and rebuilds them. It only had some minor front end damage and he rebuilt and sold it to us for 3500 (what he paid for it, plus fixing it). So we don't have much in it. She's driven it 3 years and put 30k on it.
She's already saved for her next car down payment and she has good credit. The next one she gets will be on her dime. So I'm ultimately going to let her decide whether to sale with some advice, I guess.
It's the full dip stick, and I wasn't planning on flushing it, just draining and refill, change filter, and clean magnets.
I checked the fluid. It still looks pretty clean, but maybe not as much as before. It's clear fluid, but wipes on a paper towel and is a just a little bit of brown tint to it, very slight. Like vegetable oil color.
No record on car fax specifically of it ever being changed or the transmission changed.
I don't know. It was a rebuilt we got from my BIL who buys salvage vehicles and rebuilds them. It only had some minor front end damage and he rebuilt and sold it to us for 3500 (what he paid for it, plus fixing it). So we don't have much in it. She's driven it 3 years and put 30k on it.
She's already saved for her next car down payment and she has good credit. The next one she gets will be on her dime. So I'm ultimately going to let her decide whether to sale with some advice, I guess.
It's the full dip stick, and I wasn't planning on flushing it, just draining and refill, change filter, and clean magnets.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:51 pm to rooster108bm
Transmission fluid is nothing more than a type of hydraulic fluid and does not go bad unless overheated or contaminated and by that point the damage is already done to the transmission.
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Same here. Old school I was taught to let it be.
Never changed any fluid in my life and never one single tranny problem.
2 manual trucks. 320k mikes
1 auto truck 295k miles and still going
Altima still going. 160k
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:28 pm to NATidefan
Recently sold my 2010 Maxima that had nearly 200k miles on it. I never did any maintenance to it other than changing the oil every 5-7k miles--no belts, fluid, nothing. Only thing I can remember having to replace was the A/C. A back window regular also had an issue, but it wasn't worth repairing. One of the best cars I've ever owned.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:45 pm to NATidefan
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draining and refill, change filter,
FYI, if you do change the filter, get a pan gasket as well and find the bolt torquing sequence (I have one if you need it); otherwise, it will leak. Filling is also tricky - I don't recall the trick but check on a Nissan forum or YouTube.
Good luck.
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