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2 of New Orleans' most recognizable skyscrapers in default, deepening uncertainty
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:30 pm
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2 of New Orleans' most recognizable skyscrapers default, deepening uncertainty in office market
With Shell’s exit looming, the Hancock Whitney Center’s future may hinge on a shift toward mixed-use — a path other downtown towers have already begun.
NOLA
Two of New Orleans’ most recognizable skyscrapers — the Hancock Whitney Center and 400 Poydras Street — are now in default on their debt, deepening uncertainty over the city’s fragile downtown office market.
The dual defaults come as Shell Oil prepares to vacate its longtime offices in the Hancock Whitney Center and is expected to relocate to a new River District headquarters in early 2027 — a move that would further strain a market still struggling to regain footing after years of decline.
Both buildings are owned by Hertz Investment Group, the Los Angeles-based firm that for nearly two decades was a dominant presence in New Orleans’ skyline.
Given the lack of speculative office construction in south Louisiana, I had figured that New Orleans would sort of avoid the office market collapse that has gotten really ugly in larger, more substantial cities like Atlanta, Dallas, Chicago, New York, Houston, Memphis, and Nashville.
Looks like I was wrong; and a handful of these office towers will have to be converted to residential or some kind of mixed/shared use. Shell is moving to new office space in New Orleans that will be built in 2027. I'm honestly surprised they are building new office buildings in New Orleans with a shaky market.
Was based in one of these buildings for a few years; they are nice offices. They allowed some of our lease to expire when they opened an office in Baton Rouge a while back.
I think the occupancy rates in Baton Rouge and Mobile are actually much better, but they don't really have as many of the multi-tenant towers built during that boom period in the 1990s-2010s. A lot of the newer, office buildings in Baton Rouge especially are owner-occupied (state government, OLOL, engineering companies, etc.), with at least 1-2 larger multi-tenant buildings downtown being converted to residential in the past 5 years.
I sort of thought New Orleans would follow that "mid sized city" model, but it seems to be following the Atlanta/Dallas model more.....with significant vacancies and a lot of empty buildings.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:31 pm to dewster
Spirit Halloween or souvenir shops?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:34 pm to Christopher Columbo
Building new space for Shell is really a tough spot
I’m not saying i don’t get Shell wanting it - or likewise wanting to keep Shell happy
But it’s a mess for a cornerstone building in the heart of the cbd.
I’m not saying i don’t get Shell wanting it - or likewise wanting to keep Shell happy
But it’s a mess for a cornerstone building in the heart of the cbd.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:38 pm to dewster
Supposedly the tricky part and the financially difficult part of converting office buildings into apartment buildings is the plumbing.
Where people piss and shite in office buildings is way more centrally located.
Where people piss and shite in office buildings is way more centrally located.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:38 pm to dewster
A corner apartment on an upper floor would have a nice view.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:39 pm to dewster
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Hancock Whitney Center
I don't know how long it's been called this, but it's always been One Shell Square to me.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:41 pm to dewster
What about a hard rock hotel?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:42 pm to NoSaint
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I’m not saying i don’t get Shell wanting it - or likewise wanting to keep Shell happy
I hear ya. If they want flashy new (and downsized) office space in a trendy new spot, they should have it.
But there are other firms in that building that will probably not renew their lease now because of that move. Once that started happening in the "Plaza of Americas" area in downtown Dallas, it turned into a mad rush out even though the office space is pretty nice. And I'd be surprised if the office buildings in that area were less than 85% leased before the pandemic.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:42 pm to Shexter
Occupancy overall is about 80% but that is driven down by large blocks of space in 3 buildings - Canal Place, 1515 & 1615 Poydras. 400 Poydras is 85% leased.
Issue is that there is no lender appetite to finance buildings in New Orleans and many other secondary markets. The Energy Centre building mentioned in the article defaulted at 90% leased.
Hertz was a high leverage player that used CMBS debt. That is further complicating the situation as those types of loans are very difficult to unwind
Issue is that there is no lender appetite to finance buildings in New Orleans and many other secondary markets. The Energy Centre building mentioned in the article defaulted at 90% leased.
Hertz was a high leverage player that used CMBS debt. That is further complicating the situation as those types of loans are very difficult to unwind
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:47 pm to dewster
No businesses want to be here and far fewer want to relocate here.
Most companies now aren’t investing in office space. It’s simply not needed
Most companies now aren’t investing in office space. It’s simply not needed
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:49 pm to dewster
The city will buy it and turn it into section 8
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:51 pm to dewster
This is why companies are pushing return to office
Especially backs and investment firms
Entergy - with a guaranteed profit - needs less space. That should tell you how the market is changing
Especially backs and investment firms
Entergy - with a guaranteed profit - needs less space. That should tell you how the market is changing
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:53 pm to dewster
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more substantial cities like Atlanta, Dallas, Chicago, New York, Houston, Memphis, and Nashville.

Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:58 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
Plumbing them for residential use is extremely expensive and time-consuming.
Other than that, is there a market for it?
How much luxury residential apartment demand is there for NOLA? And, who wants to finance that renovation?
Other than that, is there a market for it?
How much luxury residential apartment demand is there for NOLA? And, who wants to finance that renovation?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 2:01 pm to dewster
My dad worked in One Shell Square in the 80's.
Could've been him.
Could've been him.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:16 pm to upgrayedd
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The city will buy it and turn it into section 8
New Orleans could have the world's tallest crack house.
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