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re: 2 civilians die in West Baton Rouge car chase

Posted on 1/1/23 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by LSUCOCK
Member since Jun 2012
690 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 6:46 pm to
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. Those poor girls weren’t expecting him to blow thru that intersection, but I’ll bet he never thought they’d pull out in front of him either.


He was running a red light you dumb a$$$
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15014 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 6:51 pm to
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7 cars had passed through the green light before fife barreled through. So clearly the criminal and line of BR cop cars had been gone at least for some time


That’s what I figured.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29049 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 7:03 pm to
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Making blanket policies like no pursuits instead of treating each situation independently is what lazy, unintelligent people propose much like zero tolerance policies imposed by dimwitted school administrators
I already said in this thread, I believe in my first post, that if the perp is an imminent threat to others then a pursuit may be necessary. I also laid out an alternative even for these cases which I believe will be more effective than a high speed chase.

Failing to understand another's point of view when it has been laid out in plain text and instead acting like you know what they're thinking and getting it wrong is what lazy, unintelligent people do.

But you just go ahead and keep acting like you know every fricking thing and that you always know best.
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1643 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:32 pm to
Coming through Baton Rouge on I 10 yesterday, traffic was backed up on the eastbound side, with 4 or 5 cop cars on the shoulder, having stopped a car by Dalrymple. Coming down Hwy 1, 2 cops with lights, no sirens passed me coming up to the red light in Brusly. One cop cut over at the intersection and continued southbound in the northbound lane. The other cop passed a couple cars by using the shoulder on the left and cut back in at the intersection, continuing southbound in the southbound lanes. Got a little closer and saw about 20-25 cop cars, 3-4 firetrucks, and a few ambulances. Already on scene.

My question is - if all these responders were already on scene, well after the fact, why did these guys feel the need to do these high speed maneuvers amongst all the vehicles going through the intersection and off the service road ?
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16550 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:54 pm to
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bullshite. It’s awful that it happened, but the alternative is just letting the criminal go. If we’re gonna go to that mode of thinking, then no murderer, rapist, etc will ever be apprehended again. Shouldn’t give chase for a lesser crime? Then it’ll be open season for thieves, drunk drivers, drug dealers, vandals, etc. Criminals break the law, they need to be caught. Simple as that.


You realize lots of places have no chase laws for lower crimes. Is catching this stolen car suspect worth these two people’s lives?
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20627 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:05 pm to
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why did these guys feel the need to do these high speed maneuvers amongst all the vehicles going through the intersection and off the service road ?
I don't know enough to speak for them BUT past experience tells me the situation is not necessarily over when the chase ends. Lots is still going on. That being said, the limits for emergency driving are pushed .. a lot.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38181 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:22 pm to
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I don't know enough to speak for them BUT past experience tells me the situation is not necessarily over when the chase ends. Lots is still going on. That being said, the limits for emergency driving are pushed .. a lot.


So what 9rocket saw was both of the aftermath scenes. The cops near Dalrymple were BRPD who had stopped the vehicle that started all of this. The guys on LA1 were responding to the Addis cop who crashed. Chances are they heard their buddy was in a crash and freaked out and hauled arse.
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20627 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:23 pm to
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keep acting like you know every fricking thing and that you always know best.
Well I am professionally trained with years of experience and I DO "always know best" concerning situations like these.

There has been a lot of ignorance written in these past few pages.

There is far too little known yet about this particular wreck BUT consider this. The use of red lights and sirens does not give one the right to blow through any intersection. The use of red lights and sirens is REQUESTING THE RIGHT to proceed through. Failure to give that right may result in a ticket BUT that doesn't give the emergency driver the right to TAKE anything.

I have been trained by state & local authorities. I have read numerous case histories. I have driven fire trucks, ambulances & personal vehicle for more than 25 years.

Note about court histories: While the emergency driver may be found innocent in a criminal court a civil court will almost always side with the civilians. This is even is situations where the emergency vehicle driver would have otherwise been found innocent. In other words the LEO, fire truck driver, or ambulance driver and agency will be on the hook for big bux after an accident.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20627 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:24 pm to
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Chances are they heard their buddy was in a crash and freaked out and hauled arse.
BINGO.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48847 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:49 pm to
Where is the guy that was calling anyone a idiot who didn’t blindly support this cop. I wonder what he is saying now that the cop will be charged.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20627 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:54 pm to
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My question is - if all these responders were already on scene, well after the fact, why did these guys feel the need to do these high speed maneuvers amongst all the vehicles going through the intersection and off the service road ?
I want to add in another factor on this. Radio frequencies. Each one of these responding agencies uses a different frequency. There are even different frequencies between departments within the agencies. Each one is getting different information and not as timely as the agency with eyes on the situation.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12276 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:58 pm to
So it is official, THE OT is more bootlicker than the actual PD. That is nuts, this dude deserves to be under the jail.
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16970 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:01 pm to
WBRZ reporting the cop was arrested

SIAP
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:03 pm to
He can’t live in West Baton Rouge anymore
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3144 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:05 pm to
Not so much of a problem anymore in Louisiana with almost everyone being on the LWIN system now.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
21658 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:05 pm to
Charges Filed Against Officer

quote:

He is being charged with 2 counts of negligent homicide and 1 count of negligent injuring.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61281 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:07 pm to
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armsdealer


The last four or five pages don’t sound like a “boot licker” OT to me.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8166 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:09 pm to
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My question is - if all these responders were already on scene, well after the fact, why did these guys feel the need to do these high speed maneuvers amongst all the vehicles going through the intersection and off the service road ?


Surely the technology exists to change a call from emergency to scene under control, and to control responding unit speed. Or better yet, to divert non-needed units to routine patrols.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
21658 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:14 pm to
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So it is official, THE OT is more bootlicker than the actual PD. That is nuts, this dude deserves to be under the jail.


Are you even reading the same thread?
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20627 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:15 pm to
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Surely the technology exists to change a call from emergency to scene under control, and to control responding unit speed. Or better yet, to divert non-needed units to routine patrols.

They are working on it. Improvements coming regularly. See LWIN system. Money to upgrade is harder to come by in smaller departments.
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