re: 2/3 of teachers surveyed in Texas considering going peace out

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cheap entertainment is not going the extra mile from my kids.

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I get it - I was in band too - went to a private high school in NOLA - we were ‘hired’ for questionable events

Maybe that’s why I laugh - bc it’s not for the kids but it is something they will remember

And I’m very familiar with all of that (band, classrooms, extra curriculars) - so what I’m trying to say it does mean something to the kids - keep at it

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CC has gotten a bad rap on here

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As for this comment — I’m going to say it — I’ll take CC over Baton Rouge any day … but I’m stuck here for now

We are in GA, our elementary school lost a ton of teachers this year. My wife will not be renewing her contract. I know folks here hate teachers, but life is miserable for the “good ones.”

So much red tape, so much documentation, no breaks during the day to get it done. Absurd curriculum rules. Covid bullshite. Tech issues. Parents. Staff meetings. Equity hires without talent.

It’s common to stay at school until 6pm and then be up til midnight working on lesson plans, grading, typing up stuff, emailing parents, etc.

The problem is, it isn’t the shitty teachers leaving. The ones that are fed up are typically the ones that get piled on to do everything because they’re competent. The good ones.

And there’s far more good teachers than shitty ones.

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Very true - I was just trying to stay neutral

Texas public schools are the best you are going to get, if they have problems, Lord help the rest of the country.

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The OP really didn’t apply to Texas as a whole. A survey was out sent to 65,000 AFT members (out of the 376,000 teachers statewide), and out of the 65,000 AFT members only 3,800 (under 6%) responded with 66% of those 3,800 responses saying they had recently considered leaving profession (not clear on whether still actively considering leaving or just had at least thought about it once in recent past).

Since another article mentioned all AFT members got sent survey not only would a certain sentiment be more likely to respond it’s surprising how few responses were needed to justify AFT union boss doing interviews and having press releases. Also, since AFT members make up or represent less than 18% of total teachers in the state it would be hard to scale %s to fit entire state even if 100% of the members responded.

Basically around 2,508 teachers in AFT stated that they have felt in recent past or feel like at time of survey of leaving profession in response to a survey sent out by the union to all its 65,000 members. This makes up the opinion of just under 4% of the AFT members in Texas and just under .7% of all teachers in Texas, but the union boss, some media, and OP appear to think that’s enough to push these scare tactics. I wonder if early voting is about to start in Texas on Monday…

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Was that so difficult? Why didn’t you answer that in the other thread about your shot Governor and her moronic mandates?

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Because she came out with a big statement that day and I wasn't entirely sure if how much sway it has.

To be clear I am not a fan of either her or her predecessor.

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Who's going to teach your snowflakes then?

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Joel Osteen.

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What's going to happen if teachers finally say that's enough and peace out en masse?

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Something will eventually come to a head.

More people who can afford to do so will send their kids to private schools. Some will opt for alternative schools. Some will home school. All up until the point that public school in some districts is so shockingly bad that people decide not to procreate unless they know their child won't be in public school.

If it gets to that point, I'd imagine there will be a lot more St. George/BR situations where the public school just half a mile over is funded by a hefty property tax by people willing to contribute, everyone educates their kids how they see fit, and the district provides great benefits for teachers.

Tl;dr -- It will eventually "take care" of itself, however it will be very tough on kids unfortunate enough to be caught up in the system in the meantime. Kids who receive private school educations will have even more advantages. Those on twitter will blame institutional racism.

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Then why are teachers talking about leaving in a state that has been Republican controlled for some time and doesn’t have large, liberal teacher’s unions in their state?

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Quote in the article.

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Texas AFT: Two-thirds of teachers considered leaving profession recently

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From their website:

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February 11, 2022: 66% of Texas educators consider leaving the profession; We endorse Beto for governor; Join our Valentine’s text mixer for early voting

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Texas AFT endorses Beto O’Rourke for governor

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Texas AFT is a liberal organization and polled its liberal members. This means the union polled a bunch of people in Austin, Dallas, Houston, and SA (liberal places) and they were unhappy. I’m willing to wager that 90+% of AFT members are liberal since it’s not a mandatory union.

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Lol - I don’t mean to give you a rough time but I know CC well - my dad is from Alice

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Small world. My dad had an old WWII army buddy who lived in Alice and we visited there a couple of times.

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It’s rough but kids can come from those areas and make something of themselves - unlike the shitshow that is Louisiana public schools

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It's a weird situation. What happened is that in Louisiana a ton of the white parents threw in the towel and pulled their kids from public schools and put them in private schools. I don't blame them - I sent my own daughter to private schools. But it really gutted many of the public schools. Also, there are good public schools. My son wanted to go to our local public high school because all of his friends went there and for the sports programs. It didn't hurt him - he's about to graduate in the top 20% of his med school class. And there have been lots of professionals that attended the public school.

I think if most of the people who put their kids in private school would move them to publics en masse, it would change the public school system from the reputation it has now. It won't happen of course.

For those thinking teaching is easy with tons of time off.......you’re a dumbass.
Being an educator has been belittled so much the past few years that many have taken other avenues of study. As folks get to retirement the profession isn’t getting backfilled. Many who really have not reached a status of being vested (under 5-6 years) are going to other fields. It won’t be many more years before schools won’t be able to function.
Unfortunately you have stupidass “unions” like in the Midwest that allow the media to paint the profession with a broad brush. Texas doesn’t have a union. Just glad my wife and I don’t have many years left.