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re: >1million doses of Oxy. Gonna be more Hey-Ron addicts now

Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6676 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:58 pm to
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Cocaine isn't remotely close to being addictive/life-ruining/deadly as opiates.


It still can do all those things.
Posted by NikeShox
Toula Baw
Member since Sep 2016
1251 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:05 pm to
I know people who have been on Saboxone for years and haven't touched an opiate in years. I don't really understand that. Substituting one for another I suppose.
Had a friend who went to a Psychiatrist who treats opiate addiction with Suboxone. I went to the appointment with her and he told her to prepare to possibly be on Suboxone for the rest of her life. I thought WTF?!!!
The appointment was $300 a month and $700 for the suboxone refills. Mind blowing.

frick the Doctors and big pharm.
Posted by NOLA Brew Bus
1129 Decatur St.
Member since Aug 2016
583 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:09 pm to
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More than 1 million doses of Oxycodone???


Has anyone seen Narcos 3? this guy here is no different than Chepé
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58460 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:10 pm to
Maybe he was just helping people who were suffering from pain. Would you withhold insulin from a diabetic??
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48994 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:29 pm to
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It still can do all those things.


Well yea. But the point was the legal drug is much more addictive and destructive than the illegal drug.
And in the late 80s the government was publicly flooding our senses with JUST SAY NO, while pandering to big pharma. The hypocrisy is frustrating looking back. Damned Nancy.

Only Difference is which cartel gets your money. Well and the collateral carnage associated with illegal drug trade.


This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18807 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:31 pm to
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We have offices popping up all over Alabama with lines of people waiting on their meds.
quote:

id probably start doing drugs too if I lived in Alabama
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
63973 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:37 pm to
They are going to be in the ER now.
And threatening to kill the Doctor.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9137 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:38 pm to
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Crazy, I was told by a poster here who claimed to be a doctor that the medical community was blameless in this crisis and that it was solely caused by junkies off the street who decided to become addicted


Similar theory to blaming poor mortgagors who took out too much money in loans for the financial crisis.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17066 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:44 pm to
Same as the statistics for AIDS. Baton Rouge is the supposed leader in AIDS cases and I've never personnally known anyone or heard of anyone who has/had it.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23312 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:47 pm to
I have always called BS on blaming this on doctor's for over prescribing for pain. Its not the pain patients that are the ones getting addicted. Go look at any clinic, its young people that have traditional addictive personalities. They bought it or stole the meds from family and friends because they liked the high.

I don't know a single person who has over taken Oxy for pain, I know a ton and ran into a ton in the restaurant industry that took it for fun.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83043 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:58 pm to
Well the junkies do share much of the blame. I've known many. They aren't all victims and weren't all hooked while treated for legit ailments.

I've also known many who are perfectly capable of taking pain pills--at least lower strength ones--occasionally without getting hooked. Even recreationally. It takes a modicum of will power.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120027 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:00 pm to
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Friend family or loved one use/former user?


I would think most people know or is familiar with at least one person who is/was an addict.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20523 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:55 pm to
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But the point was the legal drug is much more addictive and destructive than the illegal drug.

Your premise is flawed, cocaine is a legal drug that can be purchased from a pharmacy. Doubtful you'll find it as a hcl salt, but blow is still a schedule 2 drug with acceptable medical value *according to the dea
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24743 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:47 pm to
Medical trash, making that Hey-Ron cash
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:23 pm to
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I've personally never seen it IRL. Does anyone here use it? Former user? Friend family or loved one use/former user?


I guarantee you know and are probably in regular contact with more than one person that are users.

The media makes it out to seem like all heroin users are complete hopeless junkies that shoot up with needles and can barely function and only a matter of time until they OD and die.

The fact is that many people simple snort heroin the same as they would an oxy pill, and ate functioning addicts. There are even people who are able to use heroin recreationally by only using on weekend nights and never shooting up.

I'm not a user but I am not naive to heroin and opiates. Being in my mid 20s it's unfortunately nearly impossible to not know users my age and to have never come in contact with it. I'm not sure it is possible to be mid 20s in today's America and not know somebody personally that has overdosed and died.

But even still, most people would be shocked how many functioning heroin addicts there are. Not that you can be responsible with a heroin addiction, but if done relatively responsibly people can hide a heroin or opiate addiction for years without anybody but their dealers and peers they use with knowing. I know people who have even hidden it from significant others that they live with.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:32 pm to
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I have always called BS on blaming this on doctor's for over prescribing for pain. Its not the pain patients that are the ones getting addicted. Go look at any clinic, its young people that have traditional addictive personalities. They bought it or stole the meds from family and friends because they liked the high.

I don't know a single person who has over taken Oxy for pain, I know a ton and ran into a ton in the restaurant industry that took it for fun.


False. I personally know 2 recovering heroin addicts. They both started with oxycodone prescribed for an acute back injury. Prescription elevated to oxycontin. Started using heroin when they couldn't get enough pills. Thankfully both are in a much better place now.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:38 pm to
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I've also known many who are perfectly capable of taking pain pills--at least lower strength ones--occasionally without getting hooked. Even recreationally. It takes a modicum of will power


This is also misleading. To some people, the smallest routine use (like treating an injury) can trigger a physical addiction that supercedes mere willpower. I have had injuries that doctors wanted to treat with opiates, but I asked for a non-habit forming alternative. Turns out naproxen plus acetominephine works pretty well.

I also learned years ago that I hate the way opiates make me feel. Get jittery and can't sleep. I took the pain after wisdom teeth were extracted because that feeling was worse. I consider that a blessing.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
14991 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:56 pm to
I wonder if Wilkinson's pharmacy in Chalmette which was shut down by the FDA was part of this whole scam with this doctor??
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14633 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 6:55 pm to
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Oxy


You're talking about percs. Not oxys.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83043 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:43 pm to
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also learned years ago that I hate the way opiates make me feel. Get jittery and can't sleep.

Then you're lucky, in a way. Just how I could never be an alcoholic Bc I don't enjoy being drunk and get horrible hangovers.
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