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re: 1600 Acre Solar Farm coming to St. Landry Parish

Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:27 pm to
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All I can say is make sure you have all the remediation money bonded and inflation and contingency is being calculated. These are going to turn into mini superfund sites off over the land


You realize you sound just like the enviro activists with respect to O&G exploration right?
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:41 pm to
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What’s sad is that there will be honest, hardworking farmers losing their livelihood.

Those farmers are going to make way more pimping the land out for a solar farm than they ever would have farming it.


Here's my best stab at solving this solar farm conundrum, while still keeping every bit of established farm land for farming...

Interstate medians


Look at I-40 on Google maps as it crosses the entire nation. In most areas where it isn't crossing through a major city (and even some where it does), the median is about 60-100 yards wide.

Why don't the state governments essentially "lease" that land to these solar farm developers? Sure, they could only fit maybe one or two rows of panels in the median, but they could literally span dozens and even hundreds of miles long. In some of the more rural areas along I-40, you could fit two rows of panels in the median and one row about 20ft off each shoulder for dozens of miles.

Why don't we line our interstates with solar panel farms? That land is just empty wasted space.

Then you have all the empty land inside interchanges and off ramps that just goes to waste too. Why not put solar farms on the inside of all of your interchanges and offramps, like this land going to waste:


There's hundreds of these interchanges along every interstate, in every state, with that land inside just doing nothing
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 5:52 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16749 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:43 pm to
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Interstate medians

shading would be an issue. Also, i don't want the feds getting that money so they can send it to Ukraine. I'm happy keeping this private sector.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:46 pm to
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Most farmers lease land in LA.


100% this. Very few farmers in LA own the land they farm and as more land owners that own ag land and hunting property begin to realize the money making potential from doing these projects, more and more farmers and hunters are going to be screwed. Frankly I am surprised it isn't already happening on a larger scale. Isn't Bill Gates one of the largest land owners in the state of LA? Do you think he gives zero fricks about turning all that property into solar farms?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:47 pm to
Solar sucks balls.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:50 pm to
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It's backwards and counter-productive.



Welcome to Louisiana!!!! Aiyeeeee lets get some gumbo.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4646 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:55 pm to
I understand he is a POS, too. St. Landry Parish is a sh*thole, this can’t make it any worse.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:58 pm to
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Also, i don't want the feds getting that money so they can send it to Ukraine. I'm happy keeping this private sector.


So then it's not about "renewable, clean energy" as the desired outcome, it's actually about making the most money by pretending to be about going green and taking advantage of the environmentalist movement?

That's basically what everyone that isn't a gullible lefty suspected all along, but I appreciate you confirming it
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16749 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 6:04 pm to
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So then it's not about "renewable, clean energy" as the desired outcome, it's actually about making the most money by pretending to be about going green and taking advantage of the environmentalist movement?

I think the "green" argument is retarded. A viable argument is that diversity of generation type and location benefits society. And solar has the unique ability to be off grid without traditional infrastructure support and thats only possible because of all the R&D thats been done thanks to large scale development.

But my point was i don't want the feds getting all that money from the leases to piss away.
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 6:09 pm
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 6:30 pm to
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But my point was i don't want the feds getting all that money from the leases to piss away.


And I definitely agree with that, I wouldn't want the feds getting any returns on interstate solar farms other than a feel-good pat on the back to tout to their comrades.

I think if the right state governor came along and made a persuasive argument to this particularly weak and "wanting to appear as progressive as possible" administration, they could get the Biden admin to essentially cede the land to the state for interstate solar farms.

Especially with Buttjudge in charge and making the decision to cede the land along/in between the interstate that was considered as belonging to the federal government, for solar farms. He would look like a huge hypocrite if he didn't basically green-light it as soon as the proposal was slapped on his desk
Posted by RaginRampage
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Member since Feb 2018
271 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:21 pm to
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total energy produced over it's life

This is all dependent upon reserve size. I'm sure it's a very easy conversion calculation that I don't feel like doing right now. But I would be willing to bet some wells are exponetionally more than solar, and some are martginal or less.

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midstream and downstream needed for the O&G

This is true more-so for oil than it is gas. Most gas processing can be done on site. I've had wells that have sold directly into distribution lines after meeting
pipeline specs. Most other wells sell to a gathering lines and require minimal processing, typically just dropping out the NGLs.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29054 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:48 pm to
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Why don't we line our interstates with solar panel farms? That land is just empty wasted space.
A fine idea, I love utilizing the underutilized.

This would pair very well with a pilot program for wireless EV charging lanes. This would of course require a push to get manufacturers to develop and support the tech, but I think they would be interested given that range anxiety is a big con for EVs. It could work similar to a toll road where you pay per kwh. Maybe one day an EV can drive coast to coast with no pit stops.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
13490 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 8:37 pm to
Interstate
—but when 18 wheelers crash into them….
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20580 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 9:12 pm to
Too many pages to go back but anyone arguing that turning arable land into solar farms isn't fricking retarded is also retarded.

Do a little research on arable land on the earth, population projection and natural climate change.


Despite what you are told, "green" is far more subsidized than any other energy industry. Forbes
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 11:40 pm
Posted by Wavefan
St. Tammany
Member since Mar 2005
263 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:13 pm to
Bayou Galion ain’t happening. As for the others, stay tuned.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16749 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:54 am to
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This is all dependent upon reserve size. I'm sure it's a very easy conversion calculation that I don't feel like doing right now. But I would be willing to bet some wells are exponetionally more than solar, and some are martginal or less.

I think this might be a fun experiment.

I have 1 acre of solar producing ~520MWh a year.

Whats an average annual production for a gas well? And how long, on average would it produce.


Posted by RaginRampage
Detroit Lions Fan
Member since Feb 2018
271 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 10:56 am to
Check my math. 1 cu. ft. of natural gas has a heat content of ~1020 BTU, per epa.gov. 1 btu = 2.93071E-07 MWh.

A marginal well in south Louisiana has reserves of ~2 Billion Cubic Feet. With top performing wells being anywhere from 10 to 100 to even 500 BCF (.5 TCF).

Assuming a well produces 1 million cubic feet a day, which is not a lot at all. That comes out to 299 MWh a day. So in 2 days, a marginal natural gas well produces more energy than an acre of solar panels do.

Assume at the power plant an efficiency of even 20% of the heat content is converted into power and you still only need 9 days to produce more energy than an acre of solar panels.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39756 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 11:01 am to
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It would also produce energy at night


and on cloudy days
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 11:20 am to
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The whore got the money. Other parishes have said no after they experienced the reality of destruction of habitat and long-term disposal liability that they figured out only after wasting a lot of money and destroying land.

Dumb whore gonna dumb whore. Sadly the parish president will be gone when the community has to figure this out.



As soon as the subsidies and tax credits go away there is going to be a eyesore left there for generations.

The gulf south is simply not great for solar and makes it almost impossible to break even much less make any money.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16749 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 11:26 am to
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As soon as the subsidies and tax credits go away there is going to be a eyesore left there for generations.
you’re going to have to explain this one to me. How can a tax credit that’s taken all up front impact something down the line?
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