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re: 1600 Acre Solar Farm coming to St. Landry Parish
Posted on 4/26/23 at 2:59 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 4/26/23 at 2:59 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
So one, the vast majority of farmers don't farm land they own.
Also, what is your feelings on imminent domain?
Also, what is your feelings on imminent domain?
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Posted on 4/26/23 at 3:12 pm to el Gaucho
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The landowner will stop getting paid within the first 10 years because the panels won’t be producing anything by then due to hurricanes and the panels themselves losing efficiency over time
bullshite. Utility scale solar produces on average in the 99% PI range.
Hurricane damage, which you have no clue how bad it would be, is covered by insurance and the units are rebuilt because they need to fulfill their PPA agreements and keep the investors happy.
quote:If the company went under someone else will buy it and operate it. No ones leaving MWs of power sitting there.
When the landowner calls about how to get rid of them the company they dealt with will have already packed it’s carpet bag and declared bankruptcy
quote:
1. The government pays for the panels
No, not how it works at all.
quote:They produce at 99% of expected.
2. They never produce any useful amount of electricity
quote:
3. The homeowner wants to get the ugly solar panels off the house but can’t get in touch with the installer
They shouldn't have gone with the harbor freight version and picked a reputable company.
quote:Or they could just leave them there and let them produce power. Also roof damage back to don't get the harbor freight model.
4. The homeowner has to remove them at his own expense and finds roof damage from the installation
Posted on 4/26/23 at 3:13 pm to el Gaucho
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Can you give us one example that isn’t from the solar carpetbaggers website?
What do you want an example of? An offgrid solar setup
?
Posted on 4/26/23 at 3:18 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Not sure how many solar panels 3MCF equate to.
The harder part if is the time & cost comparison. They produce very differently.
A gas well has a big upfront capex cost, then continued stimulation and runs out after however many years.
A solar module is a big upfront capex cost, then almost no maintenance, and will slowly degrade but continue to produce for at least 25 years but more realistically 40-50 at continued degraded values.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 3:19 pm to White Bear
quote:I just explained to you how battery/solar/EV offer freedom that sucking on the O&G teat never could.
I understand that, usually done historically for economic progress and freedom. The forced “renewables” are regressive and are about controlling people.
Renewables will also reach an inflection point beyond which economic progress will explode.
All of this "control" stuff is fearmongering nonsense.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 3:40 pm to Korkstand
quote:Yeah, not really.
I just explained to you how battery/solar/EV offer freedom that sucking on the O&G teat never could.
quote:You are completely incorrect here.
All of this "control" stuff is fearmongering nonsense.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 3:43 pm to White Bear
quote:I don't think you understand freedom. Or progress.
Yeah, not really.
quote:Please explain how we are controlled via renewables.
You are completely incorrect here.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 3:47 pm to GREENHEAD22
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So one, the vast majority of farmers don't farm land they own.
Fine.
You want to tell land owners what they can and can't do with their land?
quote:
Also, what is your feelings on imminent domain?
I'm generally against telling land owners what they can and can't do with their land.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 4:10 pm to White Bear
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You are completely incorrect here.
This doesn't make any sense.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 4:27 pm to billjamin
quote:Right, the logic is completely arse backwards.
This doesn't make any sense.
An economy built around O&G which we will forever have to rely on corporations to locate, extract, process, transport, etc and which will forever be influenced by the whims of foreign nations = freedom
And economy built around renewables which you as an individual can very easily own and operate all of the equipment and facilities necessary to produce all of the energy you need = control
Don't think I'll ever understand these folks.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 4:59 pm to Korkstand
quote:The feeling is mutual.
Don't think I'll ever understand these folks.
So you make your own batteries and solar panels? Both (batteries and solar panels) have unlimited lives?
We’re all dependent on companies to make and provide products currently, the production of which, including your solar panels and batteries, would not exist without the oil and gas industry. How can you and yours not understand this? Electricity isn’t generated from a fkn wall outlet, baw.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 6:21 pm to White Bear
quote:No but I can buy them. Can you buy your own well/pipeline/plant/etc?
So you make your own batteries and solar panels?
quote:Obviously not, but it's nice to have a couple decades of fixed-cost production lined up before upgrading.
Both (batteries and solar panels) have unlimited lives?
quote:Yeah no shite, but we're talking about the difference between owning and renting your energy supply.
We’re all dependent on companies to make and provide products currently
quote:Well you know what, the O&G industry wouldn't exist without metalworking and charcoal before it and the discovery of fricking fire before that. Industries built on top of industries, turtles all the way down. Why do you have such a problem with the next one built on top? Has this question ever crossed your mind?
the production of which, including your solar panels and batteries, would not exist without the oil and gas industry.
quote:How can you and yours not understand that you're hopping off the train with a lot more stops to come?
How can you and yours not understand this?
quote:As much as you renewables haters like to think it, nobody is this dense. You sound like a fricking idiot especially given the context that we're talking about O&G vs solar generation.
Electricity isn’t generated from a fkn wall outlet, baw.
So look, you can either recognize that the global economy exploded along with O&G technology because it drastically lowered the cost of energy, and that renewables tech is primed to do the same. Or you can keep your head shoved up your arse and pretend that the next step in energy technology is some nefarious control scheme.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 6:57 pm to Korkstand
You forgot that the renewables “industry” requires capital from the most evil corporation on the planet… the us government
Exxon never called me a domestic terrorist
ETA: it’s strange that the people that say we should all have solar also think all kids should take puberty blockers. Hmmm
Exxon never called me a domestic terrorist
ETA: it’s strange that the people that say we should all have solar also think all kids should take puberty blockers. Hmmm
This post was edited on 4/26/23 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 4/26/23 at 7:07 pm to billjamin
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People don't live in deserts. Generation needs to be at least somewhat close to the load demand.
Bro, frick that. Let's cover the Sahara desert and just Bluetooth the kWh
Posted on 4/26/23 at 7:15 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Bruh these comments...
If they could develop this "prime land" for farming then why aren't they doing it? It's likely part of a state mandate to the utility or partnership with some utility incentive bc some stipulations somewhere state that for X utility to get X tax break and bc they didn't hire enough minority trans women, they have to meet green energy generation standards (of course it's not quid pro quo) but given the way the politics work, it's usually how that stuff boils down.
Solar generation has proven feasible and to be a great investment. Utility rates are going up with both utilities in the state. It's St. Landry Parish so we aren't exactly expecting those Titans of industry to develop anything or use that land for anything. Half that parish doesn't know what day it is on any given withdrawal day. Probably the best situation for that land and area. It'll put some money into the local economy and you baws will be enjoying that nice clean anus pounding solar energy
If they could develop this "prime land" for farming then why aren't they doing it? It's likely part of a state mandate to the utility or partnership with some utility incentive bc some stipulations somewhere state that for X utility to get X tax break and bc they didn't hire enough minority trans women, they have to meet green energy generation standards (of course it's not quid pro quo) but given the way the politics work, it's usually how that stuff boils down.
Solar generation has proven feasible and to be a great investment. Utility rates are going up with both utilities in the state. It's St. Landry Parish so we aren't exactly expecting those Titans of industry to develop anything or use that land for anything. Half that parish doesn't know what day it is on any given withdrawal day. Probably the best situation for that land and area. It'll put some money into the local economy and you baws will be enjoying that nice clean anus pounding solar energy
This post was edited on 4/26/23 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 4/26/23 at 7:20 pm to Korkstand
quote:. I’ve said as much, “renewables” are regressive in that they are completely dependent on hydrocarbons.
Well you know what, the O&G industry wouldn't exist without metalworking and charcoal before it and the discovery of fricking fire before that. Industries built on top of industries, turtles all the way down. Why do you have such a problem with the next one built on top? Has this question ever crossed your mind?
quote:I disagree. “Renewables” are being forced for no good reason that would benefit the majority and that should raise suspicion.
So look, you can either recognize that the global economy exploded along with O&G technology because it drastically lowered the cost of energy, and that renewables tech is primed to do the same.
And renewable is a misnomer but typical of “progressives”. Are those hideous wind turbines renewable? Panels? Tesla batteries?
Posted on 4/26/23 at 7:36 pm to White Bear
quote:That is the absolute most stupid and nonsensical argument I have ever heard for anything ever. Literally every technology that we depend on daily was built with and depends on what was developed before it. That is just the nature of advancement. You should feel like the dumbest human being on the planet for saying something so stupid.
“renewables” are regressive in that they are completely dependent on hydrocarbons.
quote:
I disagree. “Renewables” are being forced for no good reason that would benefit the majority and that should raise suspicion.
Renewables enable the common man to be in control of his own energy resources. I'm suspicious as frick of anyone who opposes that.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 7:43 pm to TDcline
What city do you live in?
I’ll tell you how this goes
The panels will be placed on land owned by big conglomerates that were leasing to farmers before. The conglomerate gets bug money from the government
The solar company installs, they get bug money from the government
The electric company runs a transmission line, they get bug money from the government
The panels never produce any power, the bug money comes from our taxes, we get to pick the panels out of our yards next hurricane, we get to pay more to the power company, nobody ever fixes the panels
You’ll eat the bugs and be happy
We used to have a company that gave back to our communities and gave us power and only did good things until you libs ran them off. They were called standard oil. And they never wanted us to eat bugs
I’ll tell you how this goes
The panels will be placed on land owned by big conglomerates that were leasing to farmers before. The conglomerate gets bug money from the government
The solar company installs, they get bug money from the government
The electric company runs a transmission line, they get bug money from the government
The panels never produce any power, the bug money comes from our taxes, we get to pick the panels out of our yards next hurricane, we get to pay more to the power company, nobody ever fixes the panels
You’ll eat the bugs and be happy
We used to have a company that gave back to our communities and gave us power and only did good things until you libs ran them off. They were called standard oil. And they never wanted us to eat bugs
This post was edited on 4/26/23 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 4/26/23 at 7:48 pm to Korkstand
The biggest scam artist in the history of humanity said that solar was too much of a scam for him to keep messing with and that it’s not a useful technology because the sun only puts out so much power in a given space
His name is Elon musk you may have heard of him
His name is Elon musk you may have heard of him
Posted on 4/26/23 at 8:22 pm to el Gaucho
I live in Bawcomeville, Baw
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