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re: 1600 Acre Solar Farm coming to St. Landry Parish
Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:47 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:47 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Are you trolling, or stupid?
When the government is subsidizing the piss out of it, it isn't capitalism anymore.
What isn't subsidized?
Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:48 am to billjamin
Me
I don’t even get food stamps it’s messed up
I shoulda voted for Hillary like you soylar guys
I don’t even get food stamps it’s messed up
I shoulda voted for Hillary like you soylar guys
Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:53 am to Korkstand
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That is the absolute most stupid and nonsensical argument I have ever heard for anything ever. Literally every technology that we depend on daily was built with and depends on what was developed before it. That is just the nature of advancement.
The nature of advancement needn’t be forced by government under a false pretense of going green to save the planet, professor.
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You should feel like the dumbest human being on the planet for saying something so stupid.
Again, the feeling is mutual.
quote:misnomer. An example of an actual renewable resource is wood fiber not a Chinese-made solar panel.
Renewables
Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:55 am to billjamin
You're right. Everything is. Nothing is more heavily subsidized than green energy in 2023. Nothing to do with green energy, especially the money flowing through it, has anything to do with capitalism.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:58 am to member12
i'm a licensed PE electrical engineer in power engineering
i can't stress enough to people to get generators as we move into the future due to utilities shutting down base load reliable machine generation for unreliable, random solar and wind
As we move into the future the grid is becoming more and more unstable, as we've already seen utilities have been sending out notifications more often telling people to conserve power to stabilize the grid
i can't stress enough to people to get generators as we move into the future due to utilities shutting down base load reliable machine generation for unreliable, random solar and wind
As we move into the future the grid is becoming more and more unstable, as we've already seen utilities have been sending out notifications more often telling people to conserve power to stabilize the grid
Posted on 4/27/23 at 9:03 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Nothing is more heavily subsidized than green energy in 2023.
Do you really believe this?
Posted on 4/27/23 at 9:17 am to billjamin
I know of one thing that’s more subsidized than green energy but you get banned if you say it
Posted on 4/27/23 at 9:48 am to el Gaucho
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I know of one thing that’s more subsidized than green energy but you get banned if you say it
Politards paying OnlyFans girls isn't really a subsidy.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 9:58 am to White Bear
quote:How does your claim of it being "regressive" come in, professor?
The nature of advancement needn’t be forced by government under a false pretense of going green to save the planet, professor.
quote:My god you're dumb.
An example of an actual renewable resource is wood fiber not a Chinese-made solar panel.
Sunlight is "renewable" in the sense that we can't run out of it. But perhaps "renewable" isn't the best term because, unlike wood, we don't have to input any energy in order to renew it. It's not renewable, it's better than that. It's unlimited in the practical sense.
As for the panels themselves (which don't have to be chinese but of course they are kicking our asses here), they are technology used to harness the renewable resource. Just like every single other resource that we use, supporting gear is required. Don't conflate the resource with the infrastructure. And just like with every other resource and raw material, as markets shake out recycling panels will become more economical and we are already seeing that happen.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:02 am to Korkstand
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which don't have to be chinese but of course they are kicking our asses here
That's going to shift over the next few years. There's a ton of PV module manufacturing coming to the US to take advantage of the IRA adders for US made modules.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:17 am to billjamin
quote:That's good to hear. What about batteries (lithium or other)?
That's going to shift over the next few years. There's a ton of PV module manufacturing coming to the US to take advantage of the IRA adders for US made modules.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:30 am to Korkstand
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That's good to hear. What about batteries (lithium or other)?
Similar but the barriers to entry are higher so i expect slower growth.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 11:08 am to Korkstand
quote:Until it’s cloudy.
Sunlight is "renewable" in the sense that we can't run out of it. But perhaps "renewable" isn't the best term because, unlike wood, we don't have to input any energy in order to renew it. It's not renewable, it's better than that. It's unlimited in the practical sense.
It is a “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” deal for me. So answer this: Why does the US specifically, absolutely have to transition to “renewable” green energy ASAP when we possess enough hydrocarbon energy sources to sustain for a century? Two centuries? And why is the US the only country that has to meet such a goal?
China is kicking our arse because they understand diesel and coal exhaust is not going to destroy the planet.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 11:12 am to White Bear
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China is kicking our arse because they understand diesel and coal exhaust is not going to destroy the planet.
Do you know the difference in installed renewable capacity between the US and China?
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:30 pm to White Bear
quote:I love it when folks suggest that we can't depend on the sun.
Until it’s cloudy.
Everybody knows that sunlight is intermittent, but we also know that long-term averages are extremely predictable for every location on the planet. The storage requirement calculation is simple.
quote:There are different levels of brokenness. Advances are made because some recognize what's broken where most don't.
It is a “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” deal for me.
quote:Because if we don't then in a couple decades China will be top dog by a lot.
So answer this: Why does the US specifically, absolutely have to transition to “renewable” green energy ASAP when we possess enough hydrocarbon energy sources to sustain for a century? Two centuries?
quote:We are nowhere near the only country with these goals. We don't even have close to the most aggressive goals. Also I don't even think we're in the top 25 as far as progress toward renewables. You folks have a really warped sense of reality.
And why is the US the only country that has to meet such a goal?
quote:China is kicking our arse because they see the writing on the wall. Thanks to initiatives and subsidies from a variety of countries over the last 40+ years, and also thanks to the nature of technology, the cost/watt of solar has fallen incredibly fast. I mean you know it's hundreds of times cheaper today than it was in 1980, right? And like half the cost of 10 years ago? Plenty in here are saying solar is only competitive due to government subsidies. What's it like 30%? So solar is already within 30% competitive with O&G? Do you think these remarkably steady cost decreases will stop now, or do you think this 4+ decade trend might continue for a few more years?
China is kicking our arse because they understand diesel and coal exhaust is not going to destroy the planet.
China knows it will continue. They will make damned sure that it does. In 10 years they will have energy so cheap that their dominance in other industries will accelerate.
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