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re: 1 in 3 Americans have less than $5,000 saved for retirement
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:01 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:01 pm to Darth_Vader
i mean, how old are the people they are asking?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:02 pm to Darth_Vader
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How is this even possible?
People unable to delay gratification.
Let's say you started working in 1973, full time and you just saved $25 a month - never increased it, never touched it, etc. Even invested conservatively that would be between $75k and $100k today.
Folks having nothing saved because they aren't saving anything. It isn't any more complicated than that.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:02 pm to Celery
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some are artists or musicians or photographers living paycheck to paycheck until they can get steady income.
This is the problem. They’ll never get to that point because people invariably grow their expenses with their income. They’ll never admit that, but as soon as they get that next raise, suddenly something that was once a want magicall becomes a need.
If you don’t make saving a priority from jump, you’ll never do it.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:03 pm to Darth_Vader
How are people supposed to keep up with everyone on Facebook if they are saving money? You cannot have season tickets to LSU, the Saints, go to concerts and the beach all the time while saving.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:03 pm to StupidBinder
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If you don’t make saving a priority from jump, you’ll never do it.
I'll go further. If you don't make saving, particularly for retirement, your #1 priority, it will never happen.
You have to pay yourself first. Too many folks expecting to win the lottery or get social security.
Even if you get social security, you're going to be broke as a joke.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:04 pm to Covingtontiger77
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If you would please link me to some story regarding this issue.
Homeowner with flood insurance who s claims are not paid because NFIP has taken the position that reservoir release was not “flood”
Im not going to get too in depth with my personal situation as it is a rare case, however if you think the NFIP is some 100% legit cut and dry protection, then you have never had to file claim with them.
NY Times - NFIP broken
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:05 pm to lsu13lsu
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You cannot have season tickets to LSU, the Saints, go to concerts and the beach all the time while saving.
why not?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:08 pm to MorbidTheClown
I'll just figure it out later.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:09 pm to Darth_Vader
I work in the investment business. Its really startling how few have decent savings
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:11 pm to JOJO Hammer
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With this in mind, how long before progressives go after retirement accounts?
We know God damn well they want to redistribute the wealth.
When these Roth start paying out big time we will see a National Sales Tax or something similar to collect off of them.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
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It will happen
We all know they will attempt to redistribute people’s retirement money but will they succeed.
When they do go after it, will that be the tipping point for this country?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:16 pm to Darth_Vader
I couldn't really tell what population that 1 in 3 was referencing? If it is referencing all Americans including children, then there is part of your answer.
I have been in a position where it was very difficult to save money. A wife, 2 kids and less than 12K per year gross while in school. I could not save any money and we had 1 older used car, hand me down everything, didn't drink or party and never took vacations.
It can be hard to save if you live near the poverty line. 33% of households make less than 35K per year. Many have no real handle on money management to start with and have very little discretionary cash to save.
I have been in a position where it was very difficult to save money. A wife, 2 kids and less than 12K per year gross while in school. I could not save any money and we had 1 older used car, hand me down everything, didn't drink or party and never took vacations.
It can be hard to save if you live near the poverty line. 33% of households make less than 35K per year. Many have no real handle on money management to start with and have very little discretionary cash to save.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:19 pm to Darth_Vader
what's fricked up is these a-hole boomers are not only fricking over my generation (and those younger) by over-relying on medicare/SS, but their unsustainable spendthrift nature is artificially inflating the ever living frick out of goods (like homes,cars etc) that my generation has to subsidize as well. they also are refusing to retire at the expected age of retirement, pushing wages downward for all successive generations (by denying upward mobility)
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:24 pm to wasteland
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I work in the investment business. Its really startling how few have decent savings
Same. And I will readily admit that I am behind on where I’d like to be because I didn’t do what I needed to when I started working, but I am in a hell of a lot better shape than 80% of the people I work with who are 20 years older than me
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:25 pm to Darth_Vader
No I don't own an umbrella
If it rains, I'm gonna get wet
And I don't buy green bananas
Cause I don't plan that far ahead
If it rains, I'm gonna get wet
And I don't buy green bananas
Cause I don't plan that far ahead
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:27 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
i got my savings to $30k and then decided around age 30 to take a huge gamble and open up my own shop
i kept the level of savings (a little increase) but concentrated on paying down my higher interest student loans even with a major downturn in revenue 2 years ago when i decided to take my firm in a new direction
so i'm not where i want to be (and certainly not where i could be) but once i get my firm rolling at a steady level i'm going to concentrate on retirement (probably looking at some solid index funds)
i kept the level of savings (a little increase) but concentrated on paying down my higher interest student loans even with a major downturn in revenue 2 years ago when i decided to take my firm in a new direction
so i'm not where i want to be (and certainly not where i could be) but once i get my firm rolling at a steady level i'm going to concentrate on retirement (probably looking at some solid index funds)
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:27 pm to StupidBinder
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This is the problem. They’ll never get to that point because people invariably grow their expenses with their income. They’ll never admit that, but as soon as they get that next raise, suddenly something that was once a want magicall becomes a need.
If you don’t make saving a priority from jump, you’ll never do it.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Once I finally did graduate from college and get my first real big boy job, I allocated 20% of my income to varies retirement accounts. That way once the larger checks started rolling in, I could still adjust to more expenses but not feel the sting of "smaller" paychecks due to retirement. I wasn't used to making that kind of money so it was easy to let large chunks go before I ever saw my checks.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they also are refusing to retire at the expected age of retirement, pushing wages downward for all successive generations (by denying upward mobility)
I think this is likely a bit overly-simplistic and may be ignoroing the actual value (micro, for the employer, and macro, for the overall economy) to having such people employed.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
I cashed in an IRA when I made a career change that set me back. If I still had that I would be pretty far ahead of the curve even though I didn’t start saving until 4 years after school. I’m lucky enough to have time on my side where I can correct this, but now I have to contribute a lot more to catch up
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:31 pm to MorbidTheClown
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i mean, how old are the people they are asking?
"The 2018 Planning & Progress Study was conducted by Harris Poll on behalf of Northwestern Mutual and included 2,003 American adults aged 18 or older in the general population (and an oversample of 601 interviews with U.S. Millennials age 18-34 which have been combined with the general population of those 18-34 when featuring this age group separately from the general population) who participated in an online survey between March 7 and March 19, 2018. Results were weighted to Census targets for education, age/gender, race/ethnicity, region and household income. Propensity score weighting was also used to adjust for respondents' propensity to be online. No estimates of theoretical sampling error can be calculated; a full methodology is available."
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