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Who are the "first tier" candidates that will not consider the Saints job?

Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
2328 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:22 pm
I keep hearing this, but other than Ben Johnson, who exactly has preemptively declined the Saints job? I don't count Vrabel who was always going to the Pats. I think too many of our fans don't realize that all these jobs have serious drawbacks, and there are not many "top tier" candidates available anyway. Everyone has warts.
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11727 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:52 pm to
Yes every opening has warts

But our warts are herpes
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74456 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 2:29 pm to
Good job pete!
Posted by gsmith5651
Member since Feb 2016
561 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 5:59 pm to
Liam Cohen and Ben Johnson, Two young up and comers
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38672 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:18 pm to
I don’t consider Ben Johnson first tier. Has never been a head coach and his offenses very easily get rattled and struggle to recover. Now he is a brilliant football mind and could be exactly what the Bears need, but on paper he wasn’t my first choice for Saints coach. Not even sure who is anymore to be honest. I think the next coach is going to fail no matter how good he is thanks to a poor front office.
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 6:19 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62166 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:38 pm to
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I don’t consider Ben Johnson first tier.


Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15911 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:41 pm to
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I don’t consider Ben Johnson first tier.


Well that’s definitely why you’re not an NFL executive.

So. Good luck in your janitorial career.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38672 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

Well that’s definitely why you’re not an NFL executive.


I’ve never tried to be one. I can do better, I’m sure.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73975 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 10:06 pm to
The whole coaching market was waiting on Ben Johnson. He was HC1 this cycle
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
35483 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 10:10 pm to
Ben Johnson to the Bears.

maybe he'll realize they actually need a better O-line and not another skill player
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2041 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 10:32 pm to
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Well that’s definitely why you’re not an NFL executive.
Based on what we have seen recently from so many, this is in no way an insult. The Giants GM son on hard knocks even said trade up for Daniels and resign Barkley. shite ain’t that hard!!
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
2328 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:27 am to
I'm gonna bump this thread because I still see post after post about the Saints not being able to hire a coach, mostly blamed on Loomis.

Who have we missed out on so far? I can give you Ben Johnson, who was a hot candidate (and 6 other teams "missed out" on him as well). After that, who did you want?

Did you really have your heart set on Aaron Glenn, of all people? He seems like a nice guy, but did you really want to hire an average defensive coordinator because players like him? Liam Coen?, with one whole year of maintaining the offensive success of Dave Canales at Tampa Bay? Brian Schottenheimer? Please. Vrabel was locked into New England, so wasn't an option for any team once that job opened up.

Let's face it, the pool of candidates this cycle is unimpressive. Most will fail, because most always do. Why don't we let the process play out, and then get pissed and blame Loomis and Gayle for a crappy hire?

Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67594 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:31 am to

There aren’t many head coaching jobs in the NFL. The Saints will find a good coach.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29576 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:47 am to
Vrabel, Carroll, Johnson, and Coen were never coming to the Saints

Glenn was a favorite, but Jets may have done us a solid.

I'd say the realistic ranking right now will be:

1. McCarthy
2. Rizzi
3. Brady
4. Weaver

I do really believe Rizzi has a chance, and that would disappoint me greatly.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19157 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:49 am to
Carrol and Coen are not "first tier" candidates. Johnson and Vrabel are the only ones that fit that bill. Maybe Glenn, but his defenses routinely sucked.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53809 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:33 pm to
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Carrol and Coen are not "first tier" candidates


Pete Carrol would be if he was going to a better organization trying to win now… not many have won a natty and a Super Bowl
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 9:34 pm
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