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Underhill and Trip on on Payton returning

Posted on 12/13/22 at 7:21 pm
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 7:21 pm
Nick- I’ll believe it when I see it. Doesn’t see why he’d come back. Probably be some other more appealing spots. Also notes that Duncan story doesn’t just come nowhere, someone wanted it out so he doesn’t totally dismiss it.

Trip- Could be Saints trying to posture as another potential suitor to drive up price. Was not a bitter divorce, Payton was not trying to force way to Miami, was truly burnt out. Saints would absolutely take him back. It’s not a wildly far fetched idea, but would still call it a Hail Mary in likelihood.

Nick- Duncan story came from a Sean Payton source, not Saints. Payton source could be drumming up interest to make Saints look like a legit option. It is a bad look for Dennis Allen, who is a close friend of Payton, so it could be legit interest to return otherwise it’s reckless to harm a close friend.

Trip- Speculated about Payton getting wind of Allen being fired no matter what. Doesn’t think he’d create the situation to get Allen fired. Still thinks it’s >50% that Allen returns, but if he doesn’t only 5% Payton does.

Nick- In 2015, Payton’s sources said he wanted to go to the Colts and he did in fact want to go to the Colts. Was offered $18-19 million/year by the Saints at the end of the season.

Trip- Saints even offered 1 year sabbatical.

Both agree you take Payton back over a first round pick, not even debatable, even if it’s a top 3 pick.

Nick- if he does come back, you write into the contract the compensation for another team, like Mike Holmgren had done.
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 7:25 pm to
I would believe Payton coming back in 2024, with a top 3 pick.

Clean financial slate
Solid OL
Young weapons
New QB

unless he truly thought DA was that bad of a coach and he'd be 9-4 instead of 4-9 OR he sees an easy division (once brady retires)
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 7:41 pm to
I didn't remember him wanting to leave for the colts.

So he tried to leave before. Maybe he was just trying to get the saints to pay him or get more power in the organization.

Anyone who wouldn't take payton back is crazy.

Only thing that makes sense is the couple of teams he wanted to go to aren't firing their coaches.
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 7:43 pm to
Nick also says if Payton had stayed, our QB situation would be Teddy Bridgewater and Cody Pickett. Says he’s quite certain of that. Fwiw.
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 7:56 pm to
Kenny you mean
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:00 pm to
Yes sorry Kenny. Not the mid-2000s QB from Washington
Posted by Geauxldilocks
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:06 pm to
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didn't remember him wanting to leave for the colts.


I didn’t either, but that makes 3 teams (Cowboys and Dolphins) he’s wanted to leave for.

For all the power he had in NOLA he really wanted out of the place.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:07 pm to
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Both agree you take Payton back over a first round pick, not even debatable, even if it’s a top 3 pick.


Monumentally stupid
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 8:08 pm
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:10 pm to
The only other job he wanted was the Rams after the 2016 season
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:38 pm to
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Monumentally stupid


I’d love to hear you explain this one
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:03 pm to
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I didn’t either, but that makes 3 teams (Cowboys and Dolphins) he’s wanted to leave for.

For all the power he had in NOLA he really wanted out of the place.


Sure seems to be the coach of the future
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:06 pm to
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I’d love to hear you explain this one


I swear this place is eaten up with Stockholm Syndrome.


quote:

Who's that shadow holding me hostage?
I've been here for days
Who's this whisper telling me that I'm never gonna get away?
I know they'll be coming to find me soon
But I fear I'm getting used to being held by you



My post history shows I have defended CSP and supported him more than most. Till this last year.
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
4998 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:16 pm to
Same guy said DA was the smartest and best choice last offseason
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:52 pm to
This isn’t worth talking about. Y’all will believe anything
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2602 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:05 pm to
Payton said DA was best choice because he knew DA would fail. Saints could be an option again.
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:17 pm to
Just sharing some informed opinions nephew
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 11:37 pm to
who's Trip?
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:34 am to
Triplett
Posted by MetrySaint24
Metairie
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:04 am to
He's not stabbing Allen in the back if he's going to get fired bc he would almost certainly keep Allen as DC. It would actually prevent the Saints from having to "fire" Allen. They could spin it as Dennis is more comfortable in the DC role, Payton had a change of heart after a sabbatical and is still under contract. The defense has been pretty stellar the last few weeks. The impossible pipe dream is moving Pete Carmichael to some sort of offensive advisory role and bringing Brees in as OC. I realize there is a 90% chance none of this happens.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:12 am to
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It would actually prevent the Saints from having to "fire" Allen.


Not how that works
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