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Saints have a great opportunity to help Eric Bieniemy earn a head coaching job

Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:38 pm
Posted by hellsu
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:38 pm
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It’s bizarre that Eric Bieniemy still hasn’t earned a head coaching job. The Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator has put up ridiculous numbers in an offense fueled by All-Pro talents at quarterback (Patrick Mahomes II), tight end (Travis Kelce), and wide receiver (Tyreek Hill), guiding the Chiefs to multiple Super Bowl appearances the last few years. And it hasn’t been enough to get him his own team to run.
Bieniemy has faced a lot of questions about how instrumental he’s been in Kansas City’s success. How often is he actually calling plays? How many of those plays are of his own design? What role has he played in scouting and developing all of that star power? Is all of this still attributed to Andy Reid? Over and over again we’ve seen Bieniemy’s credentials scrutinized given the talent around him and who his boss is.

There isn’t anything more for him to conquer in Kansas City. The Chiefs offense could keep racking up accolades and postseason wins and he’ll still be shut out of head coaching opportunities. Maybe Reid retires someday and opens the door for Bieniemy to replace him — as Dennis Allen just did, stepping in for Sean Payton — but how far away is that day? Two years? Three? Four? More? Reid, 63, is six or seven years younger than active coaches like Pete Carroll (70), Bruce Arians and Bill Belichick (both 69). There’s no sign of him slowing down, leaving Bieniemy in purgatory.

So if Bieniemy truly has head coaching ambitions, his best viable path to achieving them would be to get out of Reid’s shadow. Go somewhere else and install his offense, or fix an ailing one. Show that he’s a great coach and an outstanding teacher who is more than Reid’s top aide.

Enter the New Orleans Saints. Dennis Allen has spoken about his vision for their offense as head coach: tweak it, correct the flaws, and look for ways to create explosive plays while running at will. He’s already begun making moves by hiring Doug Marrone, another former Saints assistant with NFL head coaching experience, who is envisioned in “a key role” though he’s not expected to be named Allen’s offensive coordinator.

Having experience and familiarity with your staff is important. It’s also critical to bring in new blood to keep up with an ever-changing sport. It’s not enough to settle for known quantities like Marrone and other retreads from Sean Payton’s past. Adding an innovator like Bieniemy would be a real shot in the arm. Having other coaches around him like Marrone and Pete Carmichael Jr. (the current offensive coordinator, who is expected to step down and into a different role) can help fit Bieniemy’s ideas into the already-existing infrastructure on offense.

Of course that would still be perceived as a lateral move for Bieniemy, if not a step down. Going from working with Mahomes to a quarterback-to-be-named-later is a tremendous risk. The Saints would need to dig deep to pull it off; pulling out all the stops. I’m talking about doubling his salary. Giving him the title of assistant or associate head coach. Ensuring he’ll call plays on offense with the same autonomy Allen enjoyed under Payton on defense. And a promise from Allen to support Bieniemy in any personnel moves he asks for, whether it means pursuing a big-name quarterback prospect or moving on from underperforming starters, including recent draft picks like Cesar Ruiz or Adam Trautman.

The Saints may not have the appetite for that. Everything they’ve done so far, including Allen’s hiring, suggests they want to play this safe and just run the hits from Payton’s tenure. Up to and including the hiring of his old assistants. If they feel they can win 10 or 11 games with what’s already in place, barring a different position coach here or there, going after Bieniemy with a full-court press wouldn’t make sense for them.

But I can’t help but wonder if it’s still possible, though. Bieniemy’s contract with Kansas City is expiring, so he’s free to choose where he takes his career. Surely the topic of him teaming up with New Orleans as a coordinator, if not as head coach, came up during their eight-hour meeting last weekend.

Hypothetically, let’s say Bieniemy revives a reeling Saints offense and leaves in a year or two to coach somewhere else. The Saints end up being left with a better offense than they had before and a couple of compensatory draft picks thanks to the NFL’s incentivized minority candidate policy.

Stranger things have happened in the NFL. At this point, all we know for sure is that Allen’s offensive coordinator — whoever they may be — hasn’t been named just yet. Maybe he surprises us and the rest of the NFL by making a big push for Bieniemy

Interesting

Posted by burke985
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:49 pm to
Why do the saints need to help Eric Bieniemy do anything?
Posted by LSU1215
Monroe
Member since Aug 2009
4262 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:50 pm to
At the end of the day D.A. needs to make the decision. He is the HC and if he fails this time it will probably be his last chance at HC gig. I'm sure Eric Bieniemy will get a shot sooner or later. Eric does need to get from under Andy to help his case. Good thing for D.A. he has veteran ready team that just needs a solid QB and not a total rebuild.
Posted by ATCTx
Member since Nov 2016
1476 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:00 pm to
For the last five years, the lords at ESPN and other networks have been insisting Bienemy must be next up for a HC job. Each year at least five jobs open and he interviews for a lot of them. If he hasn't been hired yet, there is a reason, and it's not the narrative pushed by disingenuous woke attention seekers.
This post was edited on 2/9/22 at 11:01 pm
Posted by hellsu
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:02 pm to
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Why do the saints need to help Eric Bieniemy do anything?


Don't shoot the messenger. I don't necessarily agree with the idea but I do find it interesting that a lot of focus was put on his extended interview with the Saints. If anything I have found his past off field issues a bit concerning. No one seems to ever mention them.
This post was edited on 2/9/22 at 11:04 pm
Posted by L.A.
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Member since Aug 2003
67008 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 1:25 am to
Based on his criminal record, I'm surprised he hasn't done prison time

Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 3:12 am to
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Adding an innovator like Bieniemy would be a real shot in the arm. … The Saints would need to dig deep to pull it off; pulling out all the stops. I’m talking about doubling his salary. Giving him the title of assistant or associate head coach. Ensuring he’ll call plays on offense with the same autonomy Allen enjoyed under Payton on defense. And a promise from Allen to support Bieniemy in any personnel moves he asks for,

How exactly does he or anyone know he’s an innovator when he’s in Reid’s offense and they don’t even want to renew his contract?
This is the worst take I’ve seen in awhile. Because we interviewed him we must DOUBLE his salary and let him be head coach making personnel moves, simply because of his skin color
Posted by TwoDatBait
Northshore, LA
Member since Jul 2011
6619 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 5:50 am to
I mean at least he won’t leave because of the crime in Nola, he’d fit right in…
Posted by Amused Lurker
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
2160 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 5:58 am to
The same could be said for Pete Carmichael during the Brees era. Why didn’t he get a look for HC? Answer: because everyone knows it was Sean Payton’s offense with a Hall of Fame QB.
Posted by higgsBoson
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Member since Jan 2012
1628 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 6:05 am to
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Why do the saints need to help Eric Bieniemy do anything?


Because he’d be helping us fix the offense…
Posted by Nature Boy
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 6:33 am to
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Interesting


Ummm…. Not really.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 6:38 am to
TL;DR
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
8504 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 6:41 am to
We already have a Bieniemy on the staff. His name is Pete Carmichael
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
14511 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 6:43 am to
Saints need to only worry about winning. Bieniemy can do his own work to earn a head coaching job.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 6:47 am to
I think the point was that EB can help us offensively, and it makes sense for him to leave to advance his career.
Posted by Suntiger
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Member since Feb 2007
36337 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:01 am to
I don’t find this Saints related necessarily, but if Bieniemy wants to be a head coach he should probably take an OC job with another team where he can be successful. Maybe go to San Fran? OR he can just stay where he is and try to be the heir apparent to Andy Reid. Not a bad option either.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
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Member since Sep 2003
34933 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:35 am to
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Why do the saints need to help Eric Bieniemy do anything?



You know why
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
83658 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:36 am to
Dumping Bieniemy into a salary cap trap was not going to help his career.
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 9:18 am
Posted by iBack8569
Member since Dec 2021
1605 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 8:14 am to
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The Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator has put up ridiculous numbers in an offense fueled by All-Pro talents at quarterback (Patrick Mahomes II), tight end (Travis Kelce), and wide receiver (Tyreek Hill)...


That pretty much sums up why he isn't a head coach, along with his abhorrent past as a player and a college coach. Plus the fact that Andy Reid is heavy handed when it comes to his offense. Bieniemy has contributed nothing to the performance and development of these players...they were winners when he got the OC job. If he wants a real shot at an outside HC job, rather than risk waiting for Reid to retire, he needs to get an outside OC job and prove that he can run an offense on his own without help.

Matt Nagy soiled the Reid tree by bombing out in Chicago after an initial strong showing. Doug Pederson won a Super Bowl, but fizzled out soon after his own coordinator left him. The Mike Shanahan tree is still going strong with Kyle and McVay producing consistent winners at their respective spots, so of course owners want to try their coaches to capture some of that magic they have. No one wants a Reid coach right now.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3480 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:03 am to
I saw this article as well as many other very amateurish sports takes on the saints. Its as though they are all written by people that have no clue what they are talking about but in their liberal utopia it all sounds great to them.

The others I saw are about the saints need to trade players because they are over the cap and this team other team needs that player. Totally lacking the reality of cap value and cap space but hey it really sounds great if everything is free.

Bienemy did not miss out on a HC job because he worked under Reid and he did not miss out because he is a black coach. He missed out because other candidates had better qualities the organizations identified as a need. He was not snubbed, he needs to do more work expanding his skills to meet the qualifications for a HC job. Many NFL coaches take college HC jobs to gain that experience so that is an option. What is not an option is him allowing others to portray him as a victim because that is not a quality any organization wants.
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 9:06 am
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