Saints Defense in 2022 and moving forward.

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lack of turnovers were the downfall and that is in fact what put the Saints under.500 in my opinion.

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Absolutely. We had a pretty big stretch last year where the defense created zero turnovers and we went 1-3.

And that's why I'm banging the table for a dynamic player if we go defense at 29. We need a guy who can rush the passer, bat balls, create turnovers. The defense didn't have a ton of drive-killing, momentum creating plays last year - the type that demoralize an offense. I don't want to hear about so and so being on the table because he's solid against the run come draft time.

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Look at the last 8 opponents:
Steelers - rookie qb starting
Rams - Stafford put up a good stat line early but we played most of the game against a third string no name that was clearly overmatched and we didn’t win until he took over.
SF - defense played ok against Jimmy G, but San Fran played real conservative all game b/c our offense was no threat the entire game. Lots of runs and safe plays on third down.
TB - a washed Tom Brady
Falcons - rookie 3rd rounder making first start.
Browns - Watsons what, 2nd or third game back in two years in absolute horrid conditions for passing for both teams.
Eagles - would have been the real test, but went against Minshew.
Carolina - lost to a qb that baker Mayfield beat out in training camp.

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Newsflash, NFC quarterbacks will not be any better this season.

Yeah I hear you you make a lot of good points there.

The thing is I think that there are going to be a lot of backup quarterbacks having to play again next year.

There was a lot of bad offensive line play across the league and I think that's why you saw so many backups get forced into action last year.

Players missing time in the back field was killer for the 2022 defense.

Missing Lattimore for a good chunk of 2022 was the main difference. That and not getting production out of Maye(who also missed time) and Matheau also hurt the defense.

Your defense is not having a good day when you're relying on Chris Harris, Daniel Sorensen and Justin Evans as starters in the secondary. Losing Pete Warner for 5 games wasn't help full either.

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Newsflash, NFC quarterbacks will not be any better this season.

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That's just wrong. They may not be all-pro QBs but for the most part the NFC QB play should improve. Look at our 2023 opponents

Tampa Bay-going from old Brady to Mayfield/Trask might get worse, but even Mayfield has the ability to look all-pro in some games.

Falcons-Taylor Henicke is a gamer who is an upgrade over what Ridder was last year as a rookie. Ridder himself will have more game experience to build off of

Panthers-Andy Dalton should be an improvement, or at the least more consistent than Sam Darnold. Or a top rookie draft choice in Stroud/Young

Jaguars--Lawrence should get better as he came on strong towards the end of last season

Bears--Fields should continue getting better plus he's getting weapons to throw to now

Rams--Stafford can still play if/when healthy.

Lions--Goff will be about the same, but another year in that system could see some improvement also

Vikings--Cousins should be pretty much the same

Giants--Daniel Jones had a good year, that could easily continue

Patriots--Mac Jones had a down year, this could go either way. They also added some help at WR

Texans--Should improve from Davis Mills to Young/Shroud at #2 in the draft

Titans--Will likely be worse as Tannehill/Willis did not have good seasons. Don't know if they'll make a trade or go after somebody in the draft

Packers--Will likely be worse going from Rodgers to Love

Colts--Should improve from Matt Ryan to Minshew or even a rookie QB with the 4th overall draft pick

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Cleveland should have beat us by 21+ but their receivers were awful that game.

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I agree, biggest factor that game was the weather conditions. Freezing and horrible wind. It was a game tailor made for Taysom.

Watson really fricked his career picking Cleveland over us.

Your obsession with me is flattering. I imagine you as the guy in Billy Madison chapping on lipstick and crossing names off his list in his room at his mom’s house, lil guy.

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Your defense is not having a good day when you're relying on Chris Harris, Daniel Sorensen and Justin Evans as starters in the secondary

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oh man, I ended up having to listen to most of the games on the radio because of my work schedule and you could hear the frustration in Deuce's voice when talking about teams are just going to pick on him as long as they could.

I know we didn't a lot of sack production from the D-line but we did from the LB's. That's better than nothing and kind of goes back to what I was saying about the O-line play going on in the league.

Of all the positions that I think are affected the most by the lack of practice time in the CBA, its O-line.

I bet on games here and there (not the Saints) but noticed a lot of unders hitting last year. That's because of so backup QB's having to play either cause the guy in front of him sucked or because he got hurt or both lol.

And I think the biggest deciding factor there is the lack of protection especially when passing.

Even the Saints have seen a shuffle at QB the in just the last 2 years. shite, before that, Brees didn't play the full slate his last 2 years missing multiple games.

I don't mind reshuffling like we have so this offseason. Can't wait to what they do in the draft. You get some better turnover luck next year and have better injury fortune then it's going to get a lot better.

A lot of "ifs" though.