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re: Saints at the top of Davante Adams wish list per Schefter
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:16 am to FredbullTN
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:16 am to FredbullTN
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Trading an unproven 2nd round pick for one of the best WRs in the world seems like a good idea with a caveat that they can rework that deal. Even at his age the chances of you getting a player that is the same caliber as Adam’s with a 2nd round pick is slim.
If he reworks the deal and takes a payout, then yeah. I just don't see that happening.
The money for some of these contracts is outrageous.
After cam's dead money next yr things were looking better.
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:25 am to St Augustine
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Way too much.
If injury report is correct he has a hamstring issue.
He’s in his 30s.
I’m not going to pretend to know his salary cap number but I’m sure it’s more than a second rounders will be.
He has a 35M base salary next year. So, you couldn't keep him next year if you wanted to.
This would be a 1 year rental IF you could fit his salary this year...which we can't.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:35 am to FireGoodell
frick no.
No giving away draft picks.
It would sure be nice to have a draft full of pick in every round and also salary cap space for veterans players, but no. Not with Loomis.
No giving away draft picks.
It would sure be nice to have a draft full of pick in every round and also salary cap space for veterans players, but no. Not with Loomis.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:39 am to St Augustine
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If it’s a late round pick maybe. If we have to give up anything valuable frick no.
This is the only valid take on all of this. If it’s for anything higher than a fourth or fifth, I’m out. He’s 32. He’s going to want an extension and we already have cap problems. And ultimately I don’t think he’s going to push you to contender status considering some of the other issues we have as a team: no pass rush, terrible run defense, piss poor OL.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:48 am to WicKed WayZ
If we hadn't lost McCoy and our offense was humming like the first two weeks, frick yeah, go get him. NFC is weak. However, we are a walking mash unit. So no, don't give up anything for him.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:50 am to FireGoodell
Do you think that will solve Carr's inconsistency?? I've watched Carr last season and now at the start of this season and for a guy that's been in the league now as long as he has, he still plays like a rookie in some instances when he passing the ball with throwing the dumbest passes sometimes. Smh
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:54 am to FireGoodell
The Saints can't due to the salary cap situation they're in every season.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:57 am to tucoco
The “inconsistency” is due to the shite oline. The only actual bad pass I recall is the one to Kamara running to the flat against the falcons. He forced a throw he shouldn’t have against the eagles as well that was the int at the end. But so did Drew
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:57 am to FireGoodell
Just like everything else with this organization, we all know how this ends.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:58 am to TG
We need O-lineman, not a $30 million receiver the next two years.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:59 am to saints5021
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If we hadn't lost McCoy and our offense was humming like the first two weeks, frick yeah, go get him. NFC is weak. However, we are a walking mash unit. So no, don't give up anything for him.
Agreed. After the first two weeks, I would have loved this. But adding Adams isn’t going to magically fix enough of our problems to actually make us contenders. Would be a waste of a 2nd or 3rd round pick
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:17 pm to Proximo
quote:yeah, well, your recall must not be working to good because you forgot about that terrible interception throw against Philadelphia to end that game.
The only actual bad pass I recall is the one to Kamara running to the flat against the falcons.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:22 pm to FireGoodell
We need snother WR badly
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:24 pm to Ancient Astronaut
We do, but considering some of the other holes we have, it's not as high on the priority list as some of the others. We also need:
a pass rusher
a Tackle and possible another C/G
a run stuffing DT
a pass rusher
a Tackle and possible another C/G
a run stuffing DT
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:26 pm to St Augustine
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If it’s a late round pick maybe. If we have to give up anything valuable
They want a 2nd.
I would gladly let them have Foskey
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:35 pm to FredbullTN
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Even at his age the chances of you getting a player that is the same caliber as Adam’s with a 2nd round pick is slim.
Maybe, but then again a 2nd round pick gets you four years of a rookie contract.
Adams, even if he comes here and balls out, is likely a one-and-done player. If he shows out on the Saints he's going to expect a payday that we probably can't afford (and come with a contract that will probably be too long for someone his age).
If the Saints were closer to being a true contender then, yeah, I could see pulling that trigger. But as we found out in the Philly game our team is a house of cards built on shifting sand. Even when everyone is healthy and we're curb-stomping opponents, one injury throws the whole engine into lockup.
No, IMO we're not close enough to being a true playoff team for what it would cost us to bring Adams in. I'd rather we finally roll with what we have and start taking a longer view of building through draft picks and thoughtful FA signings/trades. Or look at another player that's more affordable and can still contribute (Cooper on the Browns might be a good addition).
Who knows - maybe we'll still find a way to pull out a playoff spot.
Dealing with a decade of playing funny-money with contracts and continuously kicking the can down the road on caps has plagued this team for far too long and never produced the winner we were promised. Instead, it's produced a mediocre team that's always kinda good, but not good enough to make a playoff run while also being too good to have a shot at true franchise players in the draft.
Chasing the gold at the end of the rainbow by playing roulette with cap space has doomed this team for a long time. The only way we're going to getting out of the hole is by finally going through the pain of a rebuild.
Just my opinion, ya'll. Fire away.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:54 pm to WicKed WayZ
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This is the only valid take on all of this. If it’s for anything higher than a fourth or fifth, I’m out. He’s 32. He’s going to want an extension and we already have cap problems. And ultimately I don’t think he’s going to push you to contender status considering some of the other issues we have as a team: no pass rush, terrible run defense, piss poor OL.
There isn't a huge difference in giving up a 5th for Adams vs a 7th when you take into account the contract. The saints just don't have the money to budget for it. They would be taking 2 steps back.
Go trade for a linemen and a cheaper vet wr. I'd rather get 2 players for much less than the price of adams. And it doesn't matter cause I doubt it will be a 5th. 3rd at the lowest.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:01 pm to Chalkywhite84
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The saints just don't have the money to budget for it
They could make it work. But it's not about if they COULD. They SHOULD NOT make it work. It would be different if the OL was the only flaw. If we were stopping the run well and creating pressure with the pass rush at a high rate and were 3-1 or 4-0 it would be different
But those are the reality and Adams just isn't enough of a band aid to fix all of the flaws. If it was only the OL and they needed a pass catcher, I'd say go for it.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:08 pm to TIGERSby10
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We need O-lineman, not a $30 million receiver the next two years.
OL - multiple
DL - multiple
TE
WR
RB
They should be doing everything possible to clear future cap and accumulate draft picks.. not the opposite
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:19 pm to GynoSandberg
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hey should be doing everything possible to clear future cap and accumulate draft picks.. not the opposite
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