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Saints and CGJ were about $4 Mill per year apart
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:55 am
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:55 am
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Courtesy of everyone’s favorite Saints reporter.
Courtesy of everyone’s favorite Saints reporter.
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Am told the Saints & CJGJ were about $4M a year apart in contract talks on a long-term extension. With major deals looming for McCoy & Davenport, the cash-strapped Saints decided to deal from a position of strength & move on rather than lose CJGJ for nothing next spring.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:57 am
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:56 am to tigersquad89
And they can now get Davenport for a slight discount.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:57 am to tigersquad89
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lose CJGJ for nothing
Thanks exactly what happened
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:57 am to tigersquad89
Malcolm Jenkins cap hit this year
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:58 am to NorthshoreTiger76
If he walks, we certainly do. Plus, if he's a locker room problem, don't want him near this team.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:58 am to tigersquad89
I guess these things happen when you are a playoff team. You cant pay everyone. But a 5th and a 6th?
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:07 pm to tigersquad89
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rather than lose CJGJ for nothing
are you really better off selling him for pennies than getting nothing though?
We can pretend a malcontent like that could totally poison a locker room so we're better off...but come on. The guy isn't going to completely tank his own value just before entering the open market. You play out the contract, enter FA, and let someone overpay.
One year of service from CJJ>>>>> a low late round pick
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:09 pm to sicboy
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Plus, if he's a locker room problem, don't want him near this team.
people really, really overrate this shite.
Most professional players will say they all understand its a business and this stuff really doesn't affect the locker room/game prep. I'm usually pro Saints FO but this is a bad deal for the Saints and you have to be a pretty big homer to say otherwise.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:17 pm to BilJ
I would hate to see what our return would have been when operating from a position of weakness.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:22 pm to saints5021
couldn't have been much worse
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:25 pm to BilJ
I totally missed that spin 
"position of strength" and getting barely above 0 value
"position of strength" and getting barely above 0 value
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:31 pm to tigersquad89
so we should be hearing new deals for McCoy and Davenport rather soon?
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:32 pm to BilJ
This feels obvious to me. Those late round picks frequently don't even make the team and never even contribute as a back up. We probably traded a year of starter production for nothing.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:45 pm to BilJ
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are you really better off selling him for pennies than getting nothing though?
Can probably package the 5th/6th with our 5th/6th and move up and get an early 4th/late 3rd. We're aggressive and go get the players we want, which has worked out extremely well in the last 6-7 years. More draft capital that we can use is a good thing.
No one is paying a 3rd-4th rd pick for a nickel CB on the last year of their contract, that wants to be one of the highest paid DBs in the league.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Malcolm Jenkins cap hit this year
Bro, you know that's not how contracts work.
There is guaranteed money involved.
Do you really think they were only apart by 4 mil total and couldn't get it done?
They probably offered 8 mil and he wanted 12.
4 years 32 mil vs 4 years 48 mil.
Like i said, you are being disingenuous to make a dumb point.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 1:00 pm to Chalkywhite84
The return makes me think we (this board) value ceedy more than the nfl. I doubt seriously the saints just traded him for what they got without attempting to get more
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 8/30/22 at 1:03 pm to BilJ
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people really, really overrate this shite.
Most professional players will say they all understand its a business and this stuff really doesn't affect the locker room/game prep. I'm usually pro Saints FO but this is a bad deal for the Saints and you have to be a pretty big homer to say otherwise
Sounds like Gardner Johnson didn’t “understand it’s a business”, J. Sitting out is one thing but rebelling against the coaches is another thing. Granted it’s one side but if you have big aspirations this year, you cannot let a malcontent like that guy linger
I’m waiting to see if any teammates are vocal about this on Twitter. Haven’t seen any yet. Please share if you do. If no one really says anything, that says a lot to me
Posted on 8/30/22 at 1:03 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Bro, you know that's not how contracts work.
There is guaranteed money involved.
Do you really think they were only apart by 4 mil total and couldn't get it done?
No?
Guaranteed money has little to do with this discussion b/c we're talking about cap impacts. There's a correlation between guaranteed money and cap hit but it's not 100%
Posted on 8/30/22 at 1:05 pm to msstate7
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The return makes me think we (this board) value ceedy more than the nfl. I doubt seriously the saints just traded him for what they got without attempting to get more
The board def values him differently. He is a great nickel but is limited as a true safety.
Those guys are never going to get paid top dollar by the saints. Maybe dennis allen doesn't value that posiiton at 12 mil but does at 8.
They have a set number they are willing to go at each posiiton. They will not go over that unless the coach pushes for it like in the case of payton.
They tried to get the deal done but cgj wouldn't budge. My problem is they should've tried to trade him sooner.
A 5th isn't too too far off his true value, especially needing a top contract.
Somewhere in between a 3rd or a 4th and some change would've been fair imo.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 1:18 pm to BilJ
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One year of service from CJJ>>>>> a low late round pick
I just turned on Hanny’s show about 10 minutes ago and heard this, and this was my 1st reaction. 1 year of his service—in what is clearly a “win now” season—is WAY more valuable than a couple shitty late round picks next year. I was stunned and pissed.
Hanny made a couple good points, though (didn’t sell me, but made me feel a little better): 1) they probably knew they weren’t gonna be able to re-sign him (keeping Roby, drafting Taylor so high after taking Adebo last year, drafting that Baylor kid who I think is out for the year kind of point to that, 2) Evans has been a big surprise as safety in camp and is bigger and cheaper, and 3) his “hold-in” may have wound up being a bigger distraction now than we know, or down the road. He could have been a much bigger pain in the arse than we know.
Still, unless there’s something we don’t know, I’d much rather have the 1 year of production in a year where the defense could be elite and carry us to the playoffs and maybe on a run. Right now, I fricking hate it. But I trust Loomis and Ireland (I wonder how much personnel power Allen has in his 1st year as HC) and hope there’s a reason we don’t know that makes this make sense. But I currently ain’t seeing it.
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