re: People on here have to be prepared for a pick like Desmond Ridder

Posted by Billy Mays

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:06 pm to landrywasbeast30

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Howell second round.

Serious question - who was the last good QB to be drafted in the 2nd round?

There's been some 3rd+ round guys like Russ, Dak, obviously Brady, etc..... but 2nd round seems like a no beuno
historically.

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Posted by Suntiger

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:14 pm to LSUPilot07

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I think Corral ends up being the best of the class.

I could be completely wrong, but he just doesn’t impress me that much as an NFL prospect. Kinda reminds me of Baker Mayfield, Zach Wilson or Johnny Manziel.

Posted by landrywasbeast30

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:21 pm to Billy Mays

Don’t care. I think he’s flying under the radar for dumb reasons. He was projected number 1 pick coming into the year. He is being downgraded cause all his skill guys got drafted and team had a down year.

His comp is Baker Mayfield, except Howell is bigger, more athletic, and has a better arm. Also doesn’t seem to have the problematic personality of Baker. Look at his numbers. He’s been awesome from the moment he stepped on campus.

And he’s young. I’ve been saying it, this is the guy I would take a chance on in this draft. It makes no sense how a less talented qb like Pickett can vault up over him based on one year, which was Pickett’s fifth year and he’s two years older.

Posted by BRL79

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:22 pm to GynoSandberg

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Not that I want a QB but I think he’s going to be the best pro in the class

Based on???

Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:24 pm to GynoSandberg

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Not that I want a QB but I think he’s going to be the best pro in the class

I think he will too but it's b/c I don't think the others will amount to much. There is potential, sure, but success is a longshot.

Ridder is also the most likely to be able to start from day 1, IMHO. He's shown, by far, the best mental acumen at QB in this year's draft.

I still prefer the Howell gamble, but only with, say, a 2nd (for us).

Posted by BRL79

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:25 pm to beauchristopher

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Chris Simms has him the number 1 QB of this draft. I can't stand Simms, but he has a pretty good record with his first choice overall.

I like Chris Simms. He actually said that Alec Pierce's lack of production at WR was because Ridder isn't great at finding the open receiver

This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 6:17 pm

Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:26 pm to Billy Mays

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Serious question - who was the last good QB to be drafted in the 2nd round?

After the mid-1st the odds aren't great at all.

The problem this year is none of the QBs are worth that, even. The thought of using capital to move up for one is just insane to me.

Posted by TigahJay

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:34 pm to Fun Bunch

If we take a QB in the first round I’ll be pissed no matter who it is

Posted by GynoSandberg

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:43 pm to BRL79

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Based on???

Football IQ, arm strength, mobility, accuracy, leadership

Posted by Jwho77

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:59 pm to TigahJay

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If we take a QB in the first round I’ll be pissed no matter who it is

Bingo.

Posted by Billy Mays

Member since Jan 2009

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:16 pm to beauchristopher

Corral has a lot of upside - he's fast, athletic, twitchy, and has a quick release. There are zero concerns about his arm.

Unlike Willis, he can function inside of the pocket, and he's accurate on short and intermediate throws, which in a Sean Payton type offense (assuming we don't divert too much from his tendencies) that uses the whole field, he can excel potentially.

If we draft someone like Willis, we have to use more of the Taysom style offense.

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Posted by P bean

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:17 pm to Fun Bunch

There's a lot of denial on this board.

I love Jameis and think he can be special. However, he did just tear his ACL.

Rolling with Jameis is great but, I also think its wise to draft a first round QB as insurance, especially one who can run. We have been really good with these types (see Taysom Hill).

Best man will win. Best scenario is a Brees/Rivers scenario where they turn out to both be awesome, or the presence of the 1st round rook takes his game to new levels.

Very obvious comparable scenario is current state of the 49ers.

Edit - see packers drafting Love even though they still have A Rodgers.

This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 2:18 pm

Posted by LooseCannon22282

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:41 pm to Billy Mays

Yeah Corral is my favorite QB in this draft.

Posted by goatmilker

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:42 pm to Fun Bunch

You know Fun that having 2 picks in the 1st round assures us all that the meltdown on draft day will be twice as crazy lol

Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:45 pm to P bean

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Edit - see packers drafting Love even though they still have A Rodgers.

Idiotic move at the time and in hindsight.

They've eaten up 3 of his 5-year rookie deal by the end of next year, which means they need to already address young QB in the 1st round again next year before they have to pick up the 5th year option.

Posted by Suntiger

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 4:06 pm to Billy Mays

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Serious question - who was the last good QB to be drafted in the 2nd round?

I was surprised by how many years a QB was not taken in the second round. There’s an all time great and an all time worst in the list.

All the 2nd Round QBs since 2000

Drew Brees (01)
Kellen Clemens (06)
Kevin Kolb (07)
Drew Stanton (07)
Brian Brohm (08)
Chad Henne (08)
Pat White (09)
Jimmy Clausen (10)
Andy Dalton (11)
Brock Osweiler (12)
Geno Smith (13)
Derek Carr (14)
Jimmy G (14)
Christian Hackenberg (16)
DeShone Kizer (17)
Drew Lock (19)
Jalen Hurts (20)
Kyle Trask (21)

Posted by Suntiger

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 4:31 pm to Suntiger

Obviously there are more first round QBs, but again, some all time greats and some real stinkers.

First Round QBs since 2000:

2021:
Trevor Lawrence
Zach Wilson
Trey Lance
Justin Fields
Mac Jones

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2020:
Joe Burrow
Tua Tagovailoa
Justin Herbert
Jordan Love
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2019:
Kyler Murray
Daniel Jones
Dwayne Haskins

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2018:
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Josh Allen
Josh Rosen
Lamar Jackson
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2017:
Mitchell Trubisky
Patrick Mahomes
Deshaun Watson
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2016:
Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
Paxton Lynch
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2015:
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
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2014:
Blake Bortles
Johnny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater
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2013:
EJ Manuel
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2012:
Andrew Luck
Robert Griffin III
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
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2011:
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
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2010:
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
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2009:
Matthew Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
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2008:
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
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2007:
JaMarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
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2006:
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Jay Cutler
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2005:
Alex Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Jason Campbell
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2004:
Eli Manning
Philip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
J.P. Losman
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2003:
Carson Palmer
Byron Leftwich
Kyle Boller
Rex Grossman
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2002:
David Carr
Joey Harrington
Patrick Ramsey
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2001: Michael Vick
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2000: Chad Pennington

Posted by HangmanPage1

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Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:06 pm to LSUPilot07

Corral is the best. His offense at Ole Miss under Lebby and Freshwater had him going thru so many progressions from reading the box to multiple RPO progressions. Dude is polished mentally. I wouldn’t hate the Saints moving up in round 2 to get him if he’s there. Maybe even late 1st. But we need a Tackle and a WR.