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re: Love it - Olave was worth trading up for
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:30 pm to VA LSU fan
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:30 pm to VA LSU fan
If javis Landry wasn't being a big demanding 20m from the saints and took a cheaper deal maybe we would have drafted jameson instead and had the luxery to wait a month for him to play but shite happens... I'm happy with the pick
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:32 pm to Lester Earl
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If you want to talk relative to this class, Olave has to be more than just a solid WR2 in order to justify trading multiple picks to move up a few slots to take.
You’re not going to have two WR catching 100 balls each. If Thomas returns to form 90% of the WRs in the league are “WR2” next to him
The unit is a sum it’s parts. You only had Thomas, you needed another guy regardless. Now you got a guy who compliments him well. Opens things up for everyone, can run the whole route tree. shite go grab another guy still. Let’s look at the offense as a whole and stop worrying about WR1 WR2 whatever
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:34 pm to WicKed WayZ
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He absolutely HATES trading up. Always has. Never sees the value in it.
I have no clue where you pulled this nonsense from
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:36 pm to Lester Earl
Based off how you’ve basically shite on a lot of the Saints trade ups, esp in the first round
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:38 pm to DBG
The same scouts who drafted Ruiz with our first in 2020?
NFL scouts just more than they hit so this deference to them means ahit to me.
What’s our success rate since 2017?
NFL scouts just more than they hit so this deference to them means ahit to me.
What’s our success rate since 2017?
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:41 pm to GynoSandberg
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You’re not going to have two WR catching 100 balls each. If Thomas returns to form 90% of the WRs in the league are “WR2” next to him
If Thomas gets injured can Olave be WR1?
I don’t see it.
I dont Think anyone legitimately does.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:41 pm to GynoSandberg
Gyne you know I don’t care about the numbers. Can he be a legit WR1 threat? A guy that pulls defenses? A guy that they say “holy shite we gotta double this guy”
Cause that is what they said he is based on the bounty.
Feels Like they paid for the safe choice. But it certainly comes at a price
Cause that is what they said he is based on the bounty.
Feels Like they paid for the safe choice. But it certainly comes at a price
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:45 pm to Lester Earl
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Gyne you know I don’t care about the numbers
Then why are we bothering even having a discussion?
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:49 pm to GynoSandberg
So worse number than all the other elite WRs.
And it’s extrapolating games that didn’t happen.
Sub 1200 yards isn’t elite.
And it’s extrapolating games that didn’t happen.
Sub 1200 yards isn’t elite.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:50 pm to Lester Earl
Marquise Brown just went for a first round pick and Christian Kirk got paid $18m/year. That’s what WRs cost now.
It’s impossible to say if Olave can be a legit WR1 threat. Cooper Kupp just torched the league with like a 5 RAS score. Who knows.
It’s impossible to say if Olave can be a legit WR1 threat. Cooper Kupp just torched the league with like a 5 RAS score. Who knows.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:52 pm to SammyTiger
Who gives a shite? Michael Thomas never even broke 1,000 yards any year at Ohio State. He never even had more than 800 yards.
Look at him now. Just say you don’t like the pick for no other reason than he’s not the player you wanted the Saints to take. You have no logical reason to hate a player who was considered by some “experts” to be the best WR in the class and at worst the third best guy.
Look at him now. Just say you don’t like the pick for no other reason than he’s not the player you wanted the Saints to take. You have no logical reason to hate a player who was considered by some “experts” to be the best WR in the class and at worst the third best guy.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:57 pm to SammyTiger
The number one overall pick had 9.5 career sacks and we’re sitting here bitching about Chris Olave 
Posted on 4/29/22 at 12:02 am to DBG
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Marquise Brown just went for a first round pick and Christian Kirk got paid $18m/year. That’s what WRs cost now.
:squints:
Picks 2.47, 3.69 & 1.25
AJ brown 2.51
Taking a WR like this at 11 is borderline egregious
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 12:03 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 12:09 am to Lester Earl
So wait and take Jahan Dotson? Christian Watson? Pickens?
Haven’t you been on the FO’s case about not drafting WRs in the past year?
Haven’t you been on the FO’s case about not drafting WRs in the past year?
Posted on 4/29/22 at 12:39 am to Lester Earl
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Taking a WR like this at 11 is borderline egregious
Maybe if you dismiss the principle of relativity and think this draft was like every other one where a WR at #11 is exactly the same as a WR at #11 in all of them.
I have no idea where his info comes fro or if it’s correct, but Moscona’s been saying that the Saints think Olave is the best WR in this draft. And it may not strictly be his RAS or measurables. Maybe they value how his does on the white board, in the interviews, how he carries himself, how much he communicates his love for and commitment for football. And like Hunt alluded to a few times tonight, surely the Saints have some guys inside the Ohio State program they really trust, and if those guys vouch for the player, it makes it an easier pick.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 12:58 am to Hot Carl
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Maybe if you dismiss the principle of relativity and think this draft was like every other one where a WR at #11 is exactly the same as a WR at #11 in all of them.
That doesn’t make sense. Get some rest & sober up & ill Explain it to you tomorrow
Posted on 4/29/22 at 1:20 am to Lester Earl
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[quote] How can I be hypocrisy when I never once bragged on Daniel’s being accurate?
You didn’t—in that thread at least—but you poo pooed Myles’ 60% completion percentage as not being that great for college. And you know that’s relative. And you’ve never just used that stat to make an argument on accuracy. Is Myles completing 60% of his passes on 15 ypa? Is Daniels completing 65% of his on 5 ypa? I don’t know—don’t care. Just want you to be consistent. But again, you’re being intellectually dishonest if you can’t concede you’re skewing these stats to favor Daniels.
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Truth be told I don’t even want him to win the job. I would much prefer an attempt to develop Nussmeier on what will surely be a year for re-developing the program.
I don’t want Daniels to win the job right now because I think his arm talent limits us more than whatever weaknesses Brennan and Nuss have. Like I said, I’ve wanted Nuss to start since UCLA last year. But: 1) Daniels’ legs are a weapon that have to be figured out how to be used somehow, 2) Nuss has the best combination of arm, athleticism, swag, “it factor,” whatever, and 3) Myles’ age—not necessarily game experience—is a an underrated factor. There’s a big difference between being 24 and 20. We are probably gonna need all 3 if we can get them to stay, and I just don’t see any advantage to trying to run any out.
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I would much prefer an attempt to develop Nussmeier on what will surely be a year for re-developing the program.
You play. To win. The game. Kelly is not punting on the ‘22 season to better prepare
us for ‘23. Its a lot easier to recruit and develop for the future the better your record/team is in the present. I’ve seen people say a 7-5/8-4 season would be a success. Bull fricking shite. Kelly isn’t resigning nor are we calling for his firing if we go 7-5, but Kelly will rightfully be pissed the frick off.
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Brennan is not overly accurate. He doesn’t own any notable intangibles.
Maybe not. I’d need more data on the accurate part. I’m not sure he’s had time to ever really get in a rhythm
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:07 am to WicKed WayZ
The guy is a good not great WR.
He’s a deep threat who averaged under 15 yards a catch in College.
He went back for year 4 because none of the experts thought he was as good as any of the guys coming out last year and they still probably don’t.
And we traded up to get him.
He was the second best WR on his team (not talking about Wilson either). His draft stock is high in this draft because there aren’t elite guys like Chase or Smith.
And we gave up picks to go get him.
He’s a deep threat who averaged under 15 yards a catch in College.
He went back for year 4 because none of the experts thought he was as good as any of the guys coming out last year and they still probably don’t.
And we traded up to get him.
He was the second best WR on his team (not talking about Wilson either). His draft stock is high in this draft because there aren’t elite guys like Chase or Smith.
And we gave up picks to go get him.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:10 am to SammyTiger
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He went back for year 4 because none of the experts thought he was as good as any of the guys coming out last year and they still probably don’t.
He literally would have been a 1st round pick last year.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:34 am to DJ3K
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No he wasnt. He would have been there at 16. Maybe even 19
No... No he wouldn't. Washington (who we traded with for #11 drafted a receiver at #16. The Lions drafted Williams at #12 right behind the Saints. So that's two teams that could've and probably wouldve picked Olave before #16.
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