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If the Saints draft so well, what’s the reason for many piss-poor rosters over the years?
Posted on 6/13/26 at 9:42 am
Posted on 6/13/26 at 9:42 am
I see that Dennis Allen’s drafts were horrible, but Sean Payton and Kellen Moore have done a good job.
Why did we have so many bad defenses over the years? Was it simply bad coaching?
Did other teams do better than us in free agency?
Did other teams do a better job of resigning good draft picks after the original contract was up?
Just trying to have a discussion on why our great drafting over the years often did not lead to elite rosters or elite teams on the football field.
Why did we have so many bad defenses over the years? Was it simply bad coaching?
Did other teams do better than us in free agency?
Did other teams do a better job of resigning good draft picks after the original contract was up?
Just trying to have a discussion on why our great drafting over the years often did not lead to elite rosters or elite teams on the football field.
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:10 am to cbree88
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the Saints draft so well, what’s the reason for many piss-poor rosters over the years?
1. DA
2. Cap hell from maximizing the end of the Brees area kept us from signing FA and keeping players we should have.
3. Derek Carr
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:21 am to cbree88
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If the Saints draft so well
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Just trying to have a discussion on why our great drafting over the years often did not lead to elite rosters or elite teams on the football field.
Can you be more specific? The Saints have had good drafts and elite rosters and elite football teams on the field over the last 20 years. The Saints also haven’t drafted well at times and have had bad rosters and bad teams on the field.
Have you ran out of Ms Rachel re-runs to watch?
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:36 am to Lester Earl
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Can you be more specific?
No, he can't.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:43 am to cbree88
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Why did we have so many bad defenses over the years?
During the mid 2010’s when our defensive numbers were historically bad, I remember reading a breakdown of the salary cap by group. Not surprising, a vast majority of our cap space went to offensive players. The second largest group was dead money, and the defensive players cap space was third. Based on that, not surprising the defense was as bad as it was.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 12:11 pm to Lester Earl
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Have you ran out of Ms Rachel re-runs to watch?
Have you run out of cocks to gobble?
Posted on 6/13/26 at 12:52 pm to cbree88
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Did other teams do a better job of resigning good draft picks after the original contract was up?
Just trying to have a discussion on why our great drafting over the years often did not lead to elite rosters or elite teams on the football field.
NFL teams with most regular season wins since 2006
Saints are three games from being in the top five.
Rank Team Wins Losses Ties Win %
1 Patriots 221 104 0 .680
2 Packers 203 119 3 .630
3 Steelers 201 122 2 .622
4 Ravens 198 127 0 .609
5 Seahawks 189 135 1 .583
6 Eagles 188 135 2 .582
7 Chiefs 187 138 0 .575
8 Saints 186 139 0 .572
9 Cowboys 184 140 1 .568
10 Colts 182 142 1 .561
11 Chargers 176 149 0 .542
12 Vikings 175 148 2 .541
13 Bills 171 153 0 .528
14 Broncos 170 155 0 .523
15 49ers 166 158 1 .512
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:14 pm to cbree88
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see that Dennis Allen’s drafts were horrible, but Sean Payton and Kellen Moore have done a good job.
You’re full of shite. Payton had a string of bad drafts from ‘18-21, traded away lots of assets and fled after he realized what he did
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:23 pm to cbree88
This is our entire 2020 draft. Hide your eyes:
Cesar Ruiz
Zack Baun
Adam Trautman
Tommy Stevens
Cesar Ruiz
Zack Baun
Adam Trautman
Tommy Stevens
Posted on 6/13/26 at 2:34 pm to Proximo
He tried to sneak into miami because he saw his roster, cap and qbs degraded.
Never would have been discovered without the fired miami coach's lawsuit.
Never would have been discovered without the fired miami coach's lawsuit.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:00 pm to cbree88
We had to come to realization that CSP was not as good a coach overall as we were believing. Dude pissed away alot of production from drafting, maintaining the roster and in-game coaching!
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:55 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Baun being in this draft is an example of how the Saints drafted better than they otherwise dealt with the roster. They also chose poorly letting Hendricks go and pinning their hopes on Davenport (although I understood their thinking; it just didn’t work out at all!).
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:02 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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They also chose poorly letting Hendricks go and pinning their hopes on Davenport (although I understood their thinking; it just didn’t work out at all!)
Agree with all of this.
But, back to the OP, that contributed to the [defensive] roster being piss poor.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:56 pm to cbree88
2006 is so long ago.
Bottom line is after we got hit with scandals and CSP leaving, we just wasted talent with coaching.
Also, and most importantly, we lost a generational QB.
Bottom line is after we got hit with scandals and CSP leaving, we just wasted talent with coaching.
Also, and most importantly, we lost a generational QB.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:24 pm to tigersbb
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NFL teams with most regular season wins since 2006 Saints are three games from being in the top five.
How many Super Bowl trips did we make over the course of 20 years? That’s more telling. We were good but not great.
Meanwhile, New England appeared in 9 Super Bowls during the Brady-Belichick era.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:03 pm to cbree88
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Meanwhile, New England appeared in 9 Super Bowls during the Brady-Belichick era.
they were another level, the next closest team is the Chiefs with 5.
Seahawks 4
Steelers 3
Eagles 3
I mean if we are just talking about the teams in the top 7 on that list.
The Packers only had 1 appearance as did the Ravens and the Saints.
It's a silly comparison to make seeing how the Pats almost double up even the Chiefs in Super Bowl appreances.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:45 am to cbree88
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Meanwhile, New England appeared in 9 Super Bowls
Go cheer for them then and stop with your stupid arse posts here
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:01 pm to cbree88
Sean had two good drafts his whole time here, 06 and 17. Consistently had bad defensive talent. Brees kept him afloat. Otherwise he would have been gone a long time ago. DA was a disaster from the start. Crazy how he tried to ruin the franchise not a game in when he was trying to acquire Watson. Thank God for the Browns.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:10 pm to Fgiord
“that contributed to the [defensive] roster being piss poor.”
Agreed. Baun is an example of drafting well but poorly evaluating the talent you have.
Agreed. Baun is an example of drafting well but poorly evaluating the talent you have.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:32 pm to cbree88
The saints have some elite draft and then some absolute clunkers.
2017 produced 6 guys who ranged multi year starters to perennial PBers and a Off ROU. They were starters for a combined 39 seasons.
2018 produced 0 probowlers and combined for 6 seasons as starters
20 and 21 were pretty rough too.
2017 produced 6 guys who ranged multi year starters to perennial PBers and a Off ROU. They were starters for a combined 39 seasons.
2018 produced 0 probowlers and combined for 6 seasons as starters
20 and 21 were pretty rough too.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 2:35 pm
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