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I do not think Kamara was ever back to 100% this season.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:04 am
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:04 am
I think he rushed back with lingering ankle and/or knee issues that may not have been fully resolved and we never got the real AK. A full offseason should bring him back to speed.
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:07 am to Anaximander
Kamara was fine, we just used him incorrectly and tried to make him something that he was not.
It's the same thing Payton did with Reggie Bush.
They are not every down backs, the minute Payton committed them to that role, they got hurt.
Murray should have been the lead back and Kamara the change of pace back, like he was his rookie season.
It's the same thing Payton did with Reggie Bush.
They are not every down backs, the minute Payton committed them to that role, they got hurt.
Murray should have been the lead back and Kamara the change of pace back, like he was his rookie season.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:10 am to LaTexSaint
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Kamara was fine
nah, he was not the same this season. He was going down at first contact and running out of bounds early to avoid contact. That's not the same Kamara we are used to.....
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:11 am to LaTexSaint
I think it was fairly obvious that the burst was gone after the injury, and we all know he was best as a change-of-pace back.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 11:12 am
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:15 am to OC Tiger
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I think it was fairly obvious that the burst was gone after the injury, and we all know he was best as a change-of-pace back.
He IS the kind of guy willing to play through injury and is not the kind of guy to complain. They might have allowed him to come back too quickly.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:29 am to LaTexSaint
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Kamara was fine, we just used him incorrectly and tried to make him something that he was not.
It's the same thing Payton did with Reggie Bush.
They are not every down backs, the minute Payton committed them to that role, they got hurt.
What are you talking about?
Bush was never an every down back here and he became one after he left and performed better than ever.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:32 am to LaTexSaint
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Kamara was fine
I don't think he was. He stopped breaking tackles & making people miss after the injury. Didn't have quite the burst either. He looked like a poor man's Kamara.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:35 am to Anaximander
Kamara in the flat was covered every time and it was the only play Payton called for him....
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:36 am to GMoney2600
Kamara played the entire season like he didn't give a flying frick about what happened. Payton always talks about his amazing football IQ, but the last drive for the Saints saw him stay in bounds, fall on his arse, push Jared Cook forward instead of down, and false start. If he is a football genius as described, he wouldn't have fricked up any of those that bad.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:37 am to GMoney2600
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I don't think he was. He stopped breaking tackles & making people miss after the injury. Didn't have quite the burst either. He looked like a poor man's Kamara.
The ability to change speed and direction on a dime was his thing and nagging knee and ankle injuries may not have been enough to keep him on the bench but would not have to be major to take his edge that made him next level. In any event, we will see at the start of next year.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:50 am to Anaximander
Sorry, but Brees snapping off at Kamara for going out of bounds with no one around him showed there had been some bubbling tension with him and the offense. Trade him for assets and move on.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:12 pm to Anaximander
He was fine at first, and I think he will be fine again after an offseason.... the guy who dragged a defender into the end zone by his jersey disappeared after the injury
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:12 pm to Anaximander
I dont think Kamara is a stand alone back. He's extremely talented but part of that is because he was a compliment to another talented back.
Could injury play into that? sure, but when Ingram missed last season our run game wasnt spectacular
Could injury play into that? sure, but when Ingram missed last season our run game wasnt spectacular
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:21 pm to TaderSalad
It was months ago, but everyone forgot that Kamara was just about the entire offense against Seattle.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:29 pm to Anaximander
Well then he shouldn't have been effing playing. Murray was even developing damn well as a pass catcher and was the more effective back
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:29 pm to LaTexSaint
I disagree completely. We used him almost exactly how he has been used. He did not have the same burst, allusiveness, and tackle breaking ability this year that we have seen in years past.
He was either hurt or he was checked out mentally. I would bet on the former.
He was either hurt or he was checked out mentally. I would bet on the former.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:32 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
He has never consistently been a guy to give the ball to when everyone expected the run and we got run blitzed. He doesn't seem to be able to run through front 7 tackles the way I thought he could and the way he did against secondary players.
He is better as a sidekick or when he has the opportunity to catch the defense off guard.
He is better as a sidekick or when he has the opportunity to catch the defense off guard.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:59 pm to LSUZombie
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Trade him for assets and move on.
See what assets AK might garner in a trade and make a decision based upon that. If you can get AK-rookie-season value, make the trade.
The problem is that the other 31 teams in the league also will take a look at AK's 2019 production and will offer trade assets based on THAT year.
Bottom line: ain't nobody giving the Saints full retail value for AK, so, this trade talk is probably moot.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:02 pm to Seeker
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He was either hurt or he was checked out mentally. I would bet on the former.
I think it was a mental thing. Might not have anything to do with football. Payton said in his press conference today he was injured at the end of the year. There was something going on with him though.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:04 pm to Champagne
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The problem is that the other 31 teams in the league also will take a look at AK's 2019 production and will offer trade assets based on THAT year.
Bottom line: ain't nobody giving the Saints full retail value for AK, so, this trade talk is probably moot.
I mean, I think it's fair to say he wasn't as efficient as the last few years, but part of me wonders if adding a viable #2 WR would fix that.
Teams started leaving a db/lb on him, specifically on him in man coverage to neutralize him. Part of that in my opinion is that you don't have multiple threats to have them change their scheme. You have cook, Thomas, and a #2WR line up that could all demand double coverage and it buys Kamara another 2-3 yards of space.
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