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How awesome was Jim Finks?

Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:35 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:35 pm
We were absolute dog shite before he came aboard.

This man was the absolute foundation of us even coming close to having a winning season.

Jim Finks was the beginning of us becoming something legit.


Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:37 pm to
LINK

WDSU recapping first winning season with a special on ole Jim
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:39 pm to
him and mora turned this franchise into a winner.

now mora was 0-4 in playoffs but it set the tone for later as we saw
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:44 pm to
Finks is considered one of the all time NFL talent evaluaters, he was almost NFL commissioner in 89.

He brought the Vikings, Bears, and us out of the shitter.

One of the most important hires in Saints history.

A Hall of Famer and an all around badass.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:29 pm to
Whatever else one could say he put us on the map.
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:35 pm to
Agreed.



“Finks has been president and general manager since January 1986. Before his arrival, the team had 19 losing seasons-including 1980, when fans wore paper bags over their heads to protest a 1-15 record.

Finks hired Jim Mora as coach, and the Saints finished 7-9, fourth place in the NFC West. The next year, the Saints compiled their first winning record-12-3-and made their first playoff appearance.

In 1991, New Orleans was 11-5 and won the NFC West.”
LINK


Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26661 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 2:00 am to
quote:

He brought the Vikings, Bears, and us out of the shitter.


And the 84 cubs, believe it or not...

quote:

He didn't join the Saints until 1986. In the interim, he served as president of the Chicago Cubs, who in 1984 happened to win their first championship in 39 years.



LINK


Posted by hellsu
Northshore via Westbank
Member since Jan 2009
4158 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 6:40 am to
Finks brought true legitimacy to the front office .
Also kudos to Benson. This franchise was a true shite show from top to bottom and he made the right moves to get it turned around.
Posted by Big Sway
Member since Nov 2009
5133 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 8:53 am to
He should have paid Bobby!
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82901 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 9:53 am to
Bobby shouldnt have been such a spoiled brat about it and realized it was a chance for something special.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:12 am to
Mr. Finks was friends with my father when I was young. He once gave me a football and sharpie and let me go in the locker room after practice and get the ball signed by players.

I was maybe 5 or 6 years old walking up to naked guys with dicks the size of my arm asking for autographs, lol. Bobby was among them.

I know, csb.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
46978 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:46 am to
The turn around goes back to Benson’s group buying the team from John Mecom. Mecom Was a horrible owner. Benson hired the right people and let them do their job.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:49 am to
quote:

I was maybe 5 or 6 years old walking up to naked guys with dicks the size of my arm asking for autographs, lol.
City Champ (HOF #57) just called in to say you musta had a huge arm.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:53 am to
quote:

City Champ (HOF #57) just called in to say you musta had a huge arm.

Posted by dax9876
Member since Aug 2004
1226 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

Hebert holdout forces trade for Steve Walsh Bobby Hebert and the Saints couldn't come to terms before the 1990 season, and he missed the entire year, opening the door for John Fourcade to be the starter. Fourcade, who did a good job after replacing Hebert in the final two games of the 1989 season, had a rough beginning to 1990, and the Black and Gold opened 0-2. General Manager Jim Finks then made a trade with Dallas that sent Steve Walsh to New Orleans for first-, second- and third-round picks in future drafts. In the end, Walsh wasn't very effective, either, and Hebert (3) returned in 1991, as Walsh (4) became his backup.


I was barely alive, so don't remember this --- but a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rd draft pick!?

That would never happen in today's NFL, and seems BEYOND stupid. But how was it taken back in the early 90s?

Also, everyone loves Bobby now, but how did people react back then when he basically tanked an entire season for us by holding out (not to mention moving himself to ATL in a few years) How would we react to Kamara doing the same thing in a year or two?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48715 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 12:48 pm to
Walsh was the cowboys backup to aikman and Johnson smartly drafted him (his former QB at Miami with a supplemental pick I think. he had played pretty well in limited time and honestly a lot of people thought he could be good

It clearly didn’t work out but it was a calculated gamble
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Benson hired the right people and let them do their job.



Yes he did.

It’s a simple, common sense formula, but so difficult for many to do.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 1:00 pm to
Finks was also very good to the players.

Gave them good financial advice so they would have money after football.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 1:34 pm to
People were upset at the time but Hebert was vindicated in his lawsuit against the NFL that labor terms were grossly unfair to the players.

His lawsuit victory against the NFL was the genesis of modern free agency, so it's not like his position was unreasonable although it seemed that way to me as a 10 year old kid. I didn't fully appreciate the holdout until I grew up and now his position seems completely understandable.

It was always frustrating in the old NFC West, because 12-4 and 11-5 was only good enough for the wildcard when San Francisco was in the division with the greatest quarterback ever who went 14-2 just about every year.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
49630 posts
Posted on 1/5/19 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

I was maybe 5 or 6 years old walking up to naked guys with dicks the size of my arm asking for autographs, lol. Bobby was among them.
. The funniest thing I have ever heard on the radio was listening to bobby describing how no one would go into the showers when Jumpy Gathers was in there because he intimidated everyone.
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