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re: Free Agency news and rumors mega thread (Etienne -> Saints)
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:42 pm to Proximo
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:42 pm to Proximo
Sherwood has only been starting the last 2 years, so of course his numbers will look low compared to a 4 year starter (and other longer term starters).
And also, peep the snaps played. Lloyd is not even an every down LB as he comes off the field at times (not a ton but looks like obvious passing downs at times), while Sherwood practically never came off the last 2 years.
And also, peep the snaps played. Lloyd is not even an every down LB as he comes off the field at times (not a ton but looks like obvious passing downs at times), while Sherwood practically never came off the last 2 years.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 9:47 pm
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:48 pm to bonethug0180
Fair seeing now it included 23 where he didn’t play as much. That said, the agents are going to be arguing for that 10% year over year premium since the cap went up this season.
I just don’t think it’s a vast overpay when he was an all pro this past season (Spotrac estimated him at $20mm)
I just don’t think it’s a vast overpay when he was an all pro this past season (Spotrac estimated him at $20mm)
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:50 pm to Proximo
Comparatively vast to what other LBs got. $15 was also high for Sherwood this year comparatively, but he looks like the better long term prospect.
But you can see that's the TOP end for LBs, so they are very cheap compared to other positions. Still should be looking for one, who should be under $10 mil with the better options off the board.
But you can see that's the TOP end for LBs, so they are very cheap compared to other positions. Still should be looking for one, who should be under $10 mil with the better options off the board.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:51 pm to DBG
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I don’t even view LB as a big need.
I believe it is crucial. The Saints have lacked speed there for years now.
Speed and pursuit at LB masks a lot if you don't have a good Dline when it comes stopping the run.
Saints weren't as bad as they have been recently but in 2025 there was more room for fixing in stopping the run.
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Draft Werner’s eventual replacement.
so we aren't set. Also, Werner is highly inconsistent and he's not a field general like Davis. Make no mistake Davis will be missed because of his experience and preparation. I get why the Saints moved on, but you need that bad arse green dot play caller on gamedays.
Stutsman is more of an unknown but he'll get his chance.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:52 pm to bonethug0180
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He's an edge and played there exclusively.
63 total snaps
62 in the box
20 on the edge
1 in the slot
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:54 pm to GynoSandberg
"In the box" was still him rushing the passer. That's what he was in there to do. Yes he also got some tackles on HBs when it turned out to be a run and not a pass, but he was literally targeted once in coverage because he didn't drop back in coverage more than a couple of times (Jordan dropped back in coverage far more, and even Young had more coverage drops and he isn't known for doing that).
He is not a cover LB you are going to have stand up and play coverage. We used him as a situational rusher.
He is not a cover LB you are going to have stand up and play coverage. We used him as a situational rusher.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 3/9/26 at 10:14 pm to bonethug0180
63 total snaps
38 in coverage
14 rushing the passer
11 defending the run
Posted on 3/9/26 at 10:21 pm to GynoSandberg
They have an interesting way of defining "coverage" then, because he was not out there dropping back. Maybe he played flat zone more than I noticed covering backs out of the back field. Sure wasn't 38 times.
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He was also a guy that was almost completely phased out at the end. 3 snaps over the last 5 games (was still playing ST, so not injured at all).
LINK
Seems he had a run in the middle (one odd game over the first 5, then 7 games in a row with some snaps) and they benched him completely for Stutsman.
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He was also a guy that was almost completely phased out at the end. 3 snaps over the last 5 games (was still playing ST, so not injured at all).
LINK
Seems he had a run in the middle (one odd game over the first 5, then 7 games in a row with some snaps) and they benched him completely for Stutsman.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 3/9/26 at 10:41 pm to bonethug0180
He’s a converted DB. I would be more shocked if he wasn’t playing in the box and dropping into coverage more than rushing. Though he was mighty efficient in those limited rushes, I can see how that may jade one’s perspective
Posted on 3/9/26 at 10:48 pm to LooseCannon22282
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so we aren't set. Also, Werner is highly inconsistent and he's not a field general like Davis. Make no mistake Davis will be missed because of his experience and preparation. I get why the Saints moved on, but you need that bad arse green dot play caller on gamedays.
We are going to miss Davis because of his leadership and football IQ. He sets the tone defensively, sets the defense, and makes high IQ plays.
That being said, makes me think we're prepared to get younger & faster at LB --- Styles is the obvious 1st round pick.
CJ Allen might be a decent option in the 2nd round though
Posted on 3/9/26 at 10:53 pm to htran90
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We are going to miss Davis because of his leadership and football IQ. He sets the tone defensively, sets the defense, and makes high IQ plays.
exactly.
I don't really get how people think that LB isn't an important position anymore.
offenses are running the ball more because of the shell coverages. Maybe things change but there isn't as much passing to set up the running like before.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 3/9/26 at 10:58 pm to GynoSandberg
I love Rodriguez but like I’ve said before I think he goes before the 3rd round. And the 2nd round was always where Underhill and a lot of Saints guys have said that’s where the smoke is for them in the draft for WR, where they would most likely take one.
If they add Doubs maybe they can put that off until the third round and do something like this:
8. Downs
42. Rodriguez
But if they don’t add a guy like Doubs, 42 almost certainly has to be a WR
If they add Doubs maybe they can put that off until the third round and do something like this:
8. Downs
42. Rodriguez
But if they don’t add a guy like Doubs, 42 almost certainly has to be a WR
Posted on 3/9/26 at 11:02 pm to LooseCannon22282
Ultimately, I think they add a guy like Greenlaw, Shenal or even Elliss and probably a depth piece at corner.
Or they could be gearing up for Styles. After the Giants signed Edmunds, the only other player for Styles is the Commanders and the smoke from them is they want Love or Bain or Tate, though LB is a need.
Styles could fall into our laps. And they can always address nickel in the third round. Lots of guys like Kilgore could start and be good there. We’ll see what happens. But I don’t think they’re done
Or they could be gearing up for Styles. After the Giants signed Edmunds, the only other player for Styles is the Commanders and the smoke from them is they want Love or Bain or Tate, though LB is a need.
Styles could fall into our laps. And they can always address nickel in the third round. Lots of guys like Kilgore could start and be good there. We’ll see what happens. But I don’t think they’re done
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:08 am to LooseCannon22282
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offenses are running the ball more because of the shell coverages. Maybe things change but there isn't as much passing to set up the running like before.
You know wtf you are talking about. That and the move maybe 5-6yrs ago to smaller LBs has smarter teams going heavy and running the ball.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:55 am to touchdownjeebus
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Glad we didn’t end up with this guy and his injuries
Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:08 am to Proximo
He’s good but unfortunately he’s always hurt it seems.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:11 am to jamal
He’s the Erik McCoy of guards.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:21 am to bonethug0180
It would be very surprising if the Saints if the Saints drafted Love after signing Etienne…
I don’t see it.
I don’t see it.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:56 am to VOR
Posted on 3/10/26 at 10:17 am to Proximo
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every GM in the league is taking Jeremiyah Love on a rookie deal over Walker III or Etienne on a veteran deal (not a knock on them, it’s just financial sense).
Is taking Love the smart financial sense move? Don't know the projected slot value for the 8th pick this year, but last year McMillan signed for an average just under $7M. Even if that price stays constant at $7M (probably between $7.5 - 8M), getting a young proven player at $13M - $15M is the better move when you consider the price you'd have to pay for edge rushers, WRs, CB, or OT
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Everyone thinks he’s gone before us
Would be an ideal to see Love, Freeling, Mauigoa, and at least 1 WR go top 7. That would give you only 2 of the following defenders (Reese, Bailey, Bain, Styles, Downs, Delane) off of the board at 8.
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 10:21 am
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