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re: Discipline handed down. Vilma out for the season. (We can move on now)
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:17 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:17 am to Fun Bunch
quote:I take it that you believe that Adam Schefter made that up? Or is it that you just don't want to believe it?
Evidence?
The Saints fricked up. That's the story. They told the boss to frick off, and they got spanked. Why is this Goodell's fault?
This post was edited on 5/2/12 at 11:18 am
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:18 am to Sophandros
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So's the Vilma action...
pretty sure it was documented what he did...but maybe i'm off on that.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:18 am to M Le Rip
quote:And what happened to the wire tapping story??? So much for his cred.
I take it that you believe that Adam Schefter made that up?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:19 am to Sophandros
quote:How much jail time will the saints be serving?
What did Vilma do that was equivalent to killing a man (Stallworth)
Given the obvious answer to that question, why would you call the two "equivalent?"
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:19 am to Sophandros
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Do we get cap relief for suspended players?
From what I understand, the cap hit is prorated. The players do not get paid during their suspensions and they are technically not even on the roster.
What I am interested to see is how the appeals work. If I am not mistaken, because the players are under a collectively bargained agreement, unlike coaches and management, their appeals are heard by a board, not Goodell. If I remember correctly, Art Shell is on the appeals board. It could be interesting if an appeal goes to them.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:19 am to Sophandros
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What did Vilma do that was equivalent to killing a man (Stallworth) and 12 games worse than raping a woman (Roethlisburger)?
Nothing. Never said he did. I'm just saying based on the NFL report and Goodell's recent actions that I expected Vilma to be out for the season. It doesn't surprise me. Is it harsh? Totally.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:20 am to jacks40
quote:How many times has he had to tell a team to stop bountying twice within a year?
He is a tool for not a) being consistent in punishment
quote:To whom? That info is none of our business.
b) not willing to release info.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:21 am to 10888bge
quote:Yes or no--do you think he made Goodell's bounty warning up?
And what happened to the wire tapping story??? So much for his cred.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:21 am to Hoodoo Man
quote:I think so. However, we just restructured both of their contracts, so the base pay reduction will be minimal for Smith. His base is down to $825,000, so 4 games would only be about $200k. Vilma is due $1.6 million base and $600k roster bonus. So, theoretically, the suspensions could save us up to $2.4 million in cap room.
He's out for 4 games.
Does that mean we get 1/4 of his yearly cap hit back?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:21 am to Sophandros
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Do we get cap relief for suspended players?
Yes. With Vilma out the year, we are off the hook for his base salary and roster bonus ($1.6m base + $600k roster bonus). Same with 1/4th of Smith's base salary, but I don't know what he redid his to.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:22 am to Patrick O Rly
I WANT TO KNOW WHERE ALL THESE frickING TROLLS COME FROM!!!!
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:22 am to M Le Rip
quote:
quote:
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He is a tool for not a) being consistent in punishment
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How many times has he had to tell a team to stop bountying twice within a year?
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b) not willing to release info.
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To whom? That info is none of our business.
How about to those being punished or those representing them (NFLPA)???
This post was edited on 5/2/12 at 11:23 am
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:22 am to M Le Rip
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Why is this Goodell's fault?
OK, look you frick tard, I'll type slowly so that you can understand it.
No one is blaming Goodell. What is going on, just like with Payton, is that people (rightfully so) believe that Goodell is overly harsh with the penalties.
No one is saying that the Saints should not be punished. Rather, we're saying that the punishment should fit the crime.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:23 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:Goodell keeping it classy...
Chase Daniel ? @ChaseDaniel
I was standing right next 2 @jonvilma51 when he found out abt his suspension ON @SportsCenter. Really? He has to find out about it that way?
Not even a phone call.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:23 am to M Le Rip
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That info is none of our business.
This thread is none of your business *cough* brother.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:24 am to M Le Rip
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How much jail time will the saints be serving?
What does that have to do with Goodell's punishment?
quote:
To whom? That info is none of our business.
He hasn't released the info to the NFLPA. Is it none of their business as well?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:24 am to eyeran
quote:Goodell is a low life POS and I will celebrate if he loses his job.
Goodell keeping it classy...
Not even a phone call.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:24 am to M Le Rip
I'm speaking to his cred. Once you lose that it will always be a hit against you. Just like what is happening to the Saints.
_*just heard that the players are screwed on the appeals, they are have to appeal to Goodell, collective barg agreement, can't go to court. Goodell did not give up the appeals clause in the last bargaining session-*
a F*ck is officially given
_*just heard that the players are screwed on the appeals, they are have to appeal to Goodell, collective barg agreement, can't go to court. Goodell did not give up the appeals clause in the last bargaining session-*
a F*ck is officially given
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:24 am to M Le Rip
quote:
What did Vilma do that was equivalent to killing a man (Stallworth)
How much jail time will the saints be serving?
Given the obvious answer to that question, why would you call the two "equivalent?"
Stallworth was suspended for a season by the league--AFTER his jail time was served.
Vilma, who served no jail time, is suspended by the league for a year for ALLEGEDLY putting up $10K on Favre.
Same punishment FROM THE LEAGUE for DRASTICALLY different crimes.
Albert Haynesworth ACTUALLY stepped on a player's unprotected head, and got much less from Goodell. Again, his punishments are inconsistent and draconian.
THAT is the beef here, not that there are punishments.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:25 am to M Le Rip
The two guys we all knew were going to get hit were. Smith with 4 games sounds about right. Was expecting about 8 for Vilma, a season suspension is ridiculous. Loomis has stacked up the LB core, and we already know what it was like playing without Smith for games. We will be fine, and I am glad all of this is over.
Let's get Drew signed and do this shite.
Let's get Drew signed and do this shite.
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