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re: Discipline handed down. Vilma out for the season. (We can move on now)
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:25 am to GeauxColonels
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:25 am to GeauxColonels
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Is it harsh? Totally.
Thank you. That's my point.
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:25 am to Sophandros
quote:I understand everything you're saying. What I'm saying to you is that you're off on what the real crime is. The Saints aren't being punished for "the bounty scheme." They're punished for "continuing the bounty scheme after being given a clean second chance."
OK, look you frick tard, I'll type slowly so that you can understand it.
No one is blaming Goodell. What is going on, just like with Payton, is that people (rightfully so) believe that Goodell is overly harsh with the penalties.
No one is saying that the Saints should not be punished. Rather, we're saying that the punishment should fit the crime.
Goodell isn't saying, "Look how bad arse I am. You're fired." He's saying, "I was really nice to you, and you told me to go frick myself. So frick you."
The punishment totally fits the crime. The Saints said "frick you, Roger." Roger has now responded with, "No, frick you."
Nice little post though, skippy.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:26 am to NOSHAU
Things could have been much worse. Especially since we have a new DC, and new defensive schemes. Its not like smith and vilma were gonna have a leg up on the new guys because they'll be learning too. I was actually up for cutting Vilma a month ago. Smith out four weeks hurts, but not that much. Will Smith's presence wont win or lose us any games. Sign Brees, and lets move forward. The only thing that still bothers me some is losing Vitt for six games. But we should be fine. We have a better roster than we did last year.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:26 am to THRILLHO
quote:Sorry I can't say it better than this, but whether that's the NFLPA's business is none of my business, either.
He hasn't released the info to the NFLPA. Is it none of their business as well?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:26 am to ClientNumber9
frick You NFL and frick You Goodell!
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:26 am to M Le Rip
Just get the frick out of here. You're not a Saints fan. No one wants you here.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:27 am to eyeran
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Chase Daniel ? @ChaseDaniel I was standing right next 2 @jonvilma51 when he found out abt his suspension ON @SportsCenter. Really? He has to find out about it that way?
Pretty classless. The least the NFL could have done would have been to contact the players before making the info public. Dick move by the league.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:27 am to 10888bge
quote:I know what you think of his cred. So do you think he made it up?
I'm speaking to his cred.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:27 am to M Le Rip
quote:Your comparisons and comments are laughable. Since when does Goodell or the NFL have control over the judicial system? Your argument actually supports how ridiculous the suspension are. You are right, the Saints players never served jail time, yet the NFL is treating them worse or as bad as those that have.
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What did Vilma do that was equivalent to killing a man (Stallworth)
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How much jail time will the saints be serving?
Given the obvious answer to that question, why would you call the two "equivalent?"
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:27 am to liquid rabbit
Who will be the Des now the first 4 games?
Cameron Jordan and...Turk McBride or Junior Galette?
Cameron Jordan and...Turk McBride or Junior Galette?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:28 am to Sophandros
quote:You sound like you would find it unbelievable that an apple and an orange somehow have the same amount of calories.
Stallworth was suspended for a season by the league--AFTER his jail time was served.
Vilma, who served no jail time, is suspended by the league for a year for ALLEGEDLY putting up $10K on Favre.
Same punishment FROM THE LEAGUE for DRASTICALLY different crimes.
Albert Haynesworth ACTUALLY stepped on a player's unprotected head, and got much less from Goodell. Again, his punishments are inconsistent and draconian.
THAT is the beef here, not that there are punishments.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:29 am to M Le Rip
quote:
I understand everything you're saying. What I'm saying to you is that you're off on what the real crime is. The Saints aren't being punished for "the bounty scheme." They're punished for "continuing the bounty scheme after being given a clean second chance."
I get that, too. However, you should provide solid evidence that a "bounty scheme" existed. Furthermore, Roethlisberger was a repeat offender when he got suspended for raping women. He got four games.
Look, rational people agree that the suspensions are over the top, and they are that way specifically because the league is facing a lawsuit from former players because of player safety. THAT'S what really going on here.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:29 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:I'm a Saints fan. I just don't agree with you. You don't have to stalk me for it.
Just get the frick out of here. You're not a Saints fan. No one wants you here.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:29 am to M Le Rip
WHERE DO ALL THESE frickING TROLLS COME FROM!!!
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:30 am to M Le Rip
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Sorry I can't say it better than this, but whether that's the NFLPA's business is none of my business, either.
Then why is anything related to the issue your business? At what point does one aspect of the suspension, which IS your business, cross the threshold into "not my business" territory? Why even post on this thread other than to draw attention to yourself?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:30 am to M Le Rip
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I understand everything you're saying. What I'm saying to you is that you're off on what the real crime is. The Saints aren't being punished for "the bounty scheme." They're punished for "continuing the bounty scheme after being given a clean second chance."
To sum up:
Murder =/= bounty program
Murder === bounty program + lying
Thank you.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:30 am to NOSHAU
quote:I thought he was referring in part to the jail time served, not just to the NFL's suspension. Simple mistake.
Since when does Goodell or the NFL have control over the judicial system?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:30 am to cajuntiger07
So Hargrove was the rat
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:30 am to M Le Rip
quote:So, you would be happy if you were punished without evidence? They have been shown NO PROOF of wrong doing! The head of NFL security was quoted after the Giants/Niners game last year when asked about the Giants players intentionally targeting KWilliams because of his concussions as saying that the players are held accountable for their actions on the field, not their spoken words. Hmmmm, double standard? Where is the proof?! You simply are a troll, so go have fun somewhere else.
I understand everything you're saying. What I'm saying to you is that you're off on what the real crime is. The Saints aren't being punished for "the bounty scheme." They're punished for "continuing the bounty scheme after being given a clean second chance."
Goodell isn't saying, "Look how bad arse I am. You're fired." He's saying, "I was really nice to you, and you told me to go frick myself. So frick you."
The punishment totally fits the crime. The Saints said "frick you, Roger." Roger has now responded with, "No, frick you."
Nice little post though, skippy.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:31 am to M Le Rip
I've spoken to SEVERAL people in my office IN frickING ATLANTA who are clearly not Saints fans who believe that this punishment doesn't fit the crime.
Take that for what it's worth, "skippy".
Take that for what it's worth, "skippy".
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