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Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:50 am to tigersquad89
His birthday is 3-28
It’s destiny
It’s destiny
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:52 am to Byron Bojangles III
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every team implodes this isn't something new.
The difference is not all teams who implode will take 5+ years to start rebuilding like we will
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:55 am to Fun Bunch
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I've been saying for 3 years that everything we do needs to be about getting a QB.
Carr has been a good QB in the past. Not a great one but a good one.
I don't hate Carr like some people melting.
I don't hold 2022 against him, either. McDaniels clearly couldn't make it work.
It's the salary and our cap situation that is the issue to me.
The only "criticism" about his play is he's not good enough to deliver us a title so it really skews the risk:reward.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:55 am to SlowFlowPro
Eh. Most teams that get stuck in a rebuild do so for 4-5 years anyway. The Eagles were the outlier. It helped they moved on from Wentz as quickly as they did
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:57 am to WicKed WayZ
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Most teams that get stuck in a rebuild do so for 4-5 years anyway. T
No you didn't read what I wrote.
We can't start rebuilding once this implodes for 4-5 years
So that's 4-5 years THEN the 4-5 year rebuild you mentioned
If we did nothing this offseason except try to start a rebuild, it would take 2 years to start rebuilding. We just added an expensive QB to our cap situation and have already started destroying future caps and creating uncuttable players (Like Taysom Hill)
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
In 9 seasons as a starter, Derek Carr has 2 winning seasons. Why should anyone expect him to starting winning more when he joins a team that just finished the season with a losing record.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:00 am to AlextheBodacious
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Why should anyone expect him to starting winning more when he joins a team that just finished the season with a losing record.
We almost made the playoffs 2 years ago starting Taysom Hill and Trevor Semien a ton of games.
Do you think Carr is worse than those 2 guys?
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 11:01 am
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:00 am to WicKed WayZ
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Eh. Most teams that get stuck in a rebuild do so for 4-5 years anyway. The Eagles were the outlier. It helped they moved on from Wentz as quickly as they did
Honestly 4-5 year rebuild would be us getting lucky. Could take 10.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's the salary and our cap situation that is the issue to me
Have you not learned? The salary cap isn't real, and with all the TV deals, the cap is going to keep going up. Just keep kicking the can.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:04 am to Bonkers119
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The salary cap isn't real
If this were true, Marcus Williams, CJGJ, and Trey Hendrickson would be on our team currently.
*ETA: and Davenport, Onyamatta, etc.
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 11:05 am
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:04 am to sicboy
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Stick around, MT. Don't listen to these idiots.
yep. If Carr is the guy then he needs an absolutely loaded arsenal so MT is willing to come back at a reasonable number or something heavily incentive based, I'm fine with it.
carr throwing to olave and a bunch of JAGs would be a poor idea
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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We almost made the playoffs 2 years ago starting Taysom Hill and Trevor Semien a ton of games. Do you think Carr is worse than those 2 guys?
I’m not dumb enough to think those are better QBs than Carr but I don’t think Carr os good enough to change the team much and whatever they are paying him will be way too much money.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:05 am to deuce985
Because of the salary cap work by the Saints there is minimum opportunity to cut older vets. Once you go down that path it is tortuous to change the strategy
The Saints have no choice but to try to win now. Blowing out the roster and restarting is a 3-4 year process with how their dollars are tied up at present
The Saints have no choice but to try to win now. Blowing out the roster and restarting is a 3-4 year process with how their dollars are tied up at present
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:05 am to BilJ
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If Carr is the guy then he needs an absolutely loaded arsenal so MT is willing to come back at a reasonable number or something heavily incentive based, I'm fine with it.
I really didn't pay attention to the MT restructure.
I need to see what we could even do.
Part of it is a roster bonus poison pill I know, but that money would likely need to be paid elsewhere.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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Marcus Williams
maybe they though Maye was cheaper for same productions.
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CJGJ
Was never staying to begin with.
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Trey Hendrickson
They invested heavily in Davenport and Turner. They weren't signing Hendrickson.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
I guess you could still cut him and then sign him to a completely new deal, you'd just have to ward off potential competition
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:08 am to SaintEB
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Was never staying to begin with.
If we could afford to pay him, he'd have stayed.
We couldn't afford him.
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maybe they though Maye was cheaper for same productions.
What does "cheaper" matter if the cap isn't real?
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They invested heavily in Davenport and Turner. They weren't signing Hendrickson.
Why not if the cap isn't real?
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:09 am to LSUPilot07
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What don’t people understand about Thomas having a $60 million dollar cap hit if we keep him. $60 million dollars people! He’s gone as gone gets.
You basically can just view him as a free agent. He will be on a new contract if he is a Saint.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:09 am to BilJ
Yeah the biggest question is if MT would take less money. Can't do anything without that assurance.
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