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According to Todd McShay only 23 players have 1st round grades this year
Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:05 pm
Here they are:
Btw, in his ratings a 1st round talent grades at 90 or above
1. Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan (94)
2. Ikem Ekwonu, OT, NC State (93)
3. Evan Neal, OT, Alabama (93)
4. Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame (93)
5. Ahmad Gardner, CB, Cincinnati (93)
6. Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State (92)
7. Kayvon Thibodeaux, DE, Oregon (92)
8. Travon Walker, DE, Georgia (92)
9. Drake London, WR, USC (92)
Then the 2nd tier first ronuders
10. Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State (91)
11. Derek Stingley Jr., CB, LSU (91)
12. Nakobe Dean, ILB, Georgia (91)
13. Devin Lloyd, ILB, Utah (91)
14. Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington (90)
15. Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State (90)
16. Jordan Davis, DT, Georgia (90)
17. Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State (90)
18. Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa (90)
19. Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama (90)
20. Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia (90)
21. Malik Willis, QB, Liberty (90)
22. Kenny Pickett, QB, Pittsburgh (90)
23. Daxton Hill, S, Michigan (90)
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Btw, in his ratings a 1st round talent grades at 90 or above
1. Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan (94)
2. Ikem Ekwonu, OT, NC State (93)
3. Evan Neal, OT, Alabama (93)
4. Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame (93)
5. Ahmad Gardner, CB, Cincinnati (93)
6. Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State (92)
7. Kayvon Thibodeaux, DE, Oregon (92)
8. Travon Walker, DE, Georgia (92)
9. Drake London, WR, USC (92)
Then the 2nd tier first ronuders
10. Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State (91)
11. Derek Stingley Jr., CB, LSU (91)
12. Nakobe Dean, ILB, Georgia (91)
13. Devin Lloyd, ILB, Utah (91)
14. Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington (90)
15. Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State (90)
16. Jordan Davis, DT, Georgia (90)
17. Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State (90)
18. Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa (90)
19. Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama (90)
20. Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia (90)
21. Malik Willis, QB, Liberty (90)
22. Kenny Pickett, QB, Pittsburgh (90)
23. Daxton Hill, S, Michigan (90)
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This post was edited on 4/1/22 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:11 pm to L.A.
Looks good considering the Saints top two needs are WR and OT.
This post was edited on 4/1/22 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:13 pm to VA LSU fan
quote:
Looks good considering the Saints top two needs are WR and OT.
What about this guy though...
18. Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa (90)
Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:15 pm to GMoney2600
Can he play both guard and center? =P
Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:18 pm to L.A.
Lagniappe: He says these guys are graded early 2 round:
24. George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue (89)
25. Trevor Penning, OT, Northern Iowa (89)
26. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas (89)
27. Kenyon Green, G, Texas A&M (89)
28. Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State (89)
29. Andrew Booth Jr., CB, Clemson (89)
30. David Ojabo, OLB, Michigan (88)
31. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington (88)
32. Boye Mafe, OLB, Minnesota (88)
33. Zion Johnson, G, Boston College (88)
34. Matt Corral, QB, Mississippi (88)
35. Quay Walker, ILB, Georgia (87)
36. Desmond Ridder, QB, Cincinnati (87)
37. Christian Harris, ILB, Alabama (86)
38. Arnold Ebiketie, DE, Penn State (86)
39. Travis Jones, DT, Connecticut (86)
40. Logan Hall, DE, Houston (86)
41. Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor (86)
42. Skyy Moore, WR, Western Michigan (85)
43. Bernhard Raimann, OT, Central Michigan (85)
44. Kenneth Walker III, RB, Michigan State (85)
45. Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State (85)
These guys are graded late 2nd- early 3rd:
46. Breece Hall, RB, Iowa State (84)
47. Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida (84)
48. Leo Chenal, ILB, Wisconsin (84)
49. Phidarian Mathis, DT, Alabama (84)
50. Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina (84)
51. Perrion Winfrey, DT, Oklahoma (84)
52. Lewis Cine, S, Georgia (84)
53. Nick Cross, S, Maryland (83)
54. Roger McCreary, CB, Auburn (83)
55. Abraham Lucas, OT, Washington State (83)
56. Nik Bonitto, OLB, Oklahoma (83)
57. George Pickens, WR, Georgia (83)
58. Tyler Smith, OT, Tulsa (82)
59. Trey McBride, TE, Colorado State (82)
60. Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota (82)
61. Drake Jackson, OLB, USC (81)
62. DeMarvin Leal, DE, Texas A&M (81)
63. John Metchie III, WR, Alabama (81)
64. DeAngelo Malone, OLB, Western Kentucky (80)
65. Chad Muma, ILB, Wyoming (80)
66. Jaquan Brisker, S, Penn State (80)
24. George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue (89)
25. Trevor Penning, OT, Northern Iowa (89)
26. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas (89)
27. Kenyon Green, G, Texas A&M (89)
28. Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State (89)
29. Andrew Booth Jr., CB, Clemson (89)
30. David Ojabo, OLB, Michigan (88)
31. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington (88)
32. Boye Mafe, OLB, Minnesota (88)
33. Zion Johnson, G, Boston College (88)
34. Matt Corral, QB, Mississippi (88)
35. Quay Walker, ILB, Georgia (87)
36. Desmond Ridder, QB, Cincinnati (87)
37. Christian Harris, ILB, Alabama (86)
38. Arnold Ebiketie, DE, Penn State (86)
39. Travis Jones, DT, Connecticut (86)
40. Logan Hall, DE, Houston (86)
41. Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor (86)
42. Skyy Moore, WR, Western Michigan (85)
43. Bernhard Raimann, OT, Central Michigan (85)
44. Kenneth Walker III, RB, Michigan State (85)
45. Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State (85)
These guys are graded late 2nd- early 3rd:
46. Breece Hall, RB, Iowa State (84)
47. Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida (84)
48. Leo Chenal, ILB, Wisconsin (84)
49. Phidarian Mathis, DT, Alabama (84)
50. Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina (84)
51. Perrion Winfrey, DT, Oklahoma (84)
52. Lewis Cine, S, Georgia (84)
53. Nick Cross, S, Maryland (83)
54. Roger McCreary, CB, Auburn (83)
55. Abraham Lucas, OT, Washington State (83)
56. Nik Bonitto, OLB, Oklahoma (83)
57. George Pickens, WR, Georgia (83)
58. Tyler Smith, OT, Tulsa (82)
59. Trey McBride, TE, Colorado State (82)
60. Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota (82)
61. Drake Jackson, OLB, USC (81)
62. DeMarvin Leal, DE, Texas A&M (81)
63. John Metchie III, WR, Alabama (81)
64. DeAngelo Malone, OLB, Western Kentucky (80)
65. Chad Muma, ILB, Wyoming (80)
66. Jaquan Brisker, S, Penn State (80)
This post was edited on 4/1/22 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 4/1/22 at 6:19 pm to L.A.
With the power that a guy like McShay has with these subjective "ratings", you'd think he'd have a ton of opportunities to get future scoops from agents and players for "adjusting" his grade on them a couple ticks now and then.
He is in a better position to get scoops than Schefty, for example.
He is in a better position to get scoops than Schefty, for example.
This post was edited on 4/1/22 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 4/1/22 at 7:46 pm to L.A.
If Stingley falls to 18 you've got to take him.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 7:49 pm to SirWinston
3 things here.
1. The Saints pick in the top 23 so there is that.
2. Saints need to take a QB
3. Trade down which they never do. Get more picks.
1. The Saints pick in the top 23 so there is that.
2. Saints need to take a QB
3. Trade down which they never do. Get more picks.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 7:57 pm to L.A.
Good thing Todd McShay doesn’t know shite and his rankings suck
Posted on 4/1/22 at 8:02 pm to L.A.
This frickin draft is loaded loaded... Dang if our people pick'em like that ramchack-kamara-williams draft we'll be contenders for sure.. I have my trust in our scouts!!!
Posted on 4/1/22 at 8:28 pm to L.A.
So the Saints are able to get a 1st round talent @ 18.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:00 pm to tigerterrace
quote:
Saints need to take a QB
Why? The QBs in this class are awful.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:02 pm to tigerterrace
quote:
2. Saints need to take a QB
Lol absolutely not.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:12 pm to L.A.
Hoping one of Cross, Jameson, or Olave make it down to us. Don’t think London will go that high either. He may go around our pick.
We shouldn’t have to move up to grab someone we can really use this year. Kinda hoping for Cross and then get Pickens or Sky in the 2nd. Home run draft right there.
We shouldn’t have to move up to grab someone we can really use this year. Kinda hoping for Cross and then get Pickens or Sky in the 2nd. Home run draft right there.
This post was edited on 4/1/22 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:37 pm to Townedrunkard
No team ever needs to take a certain position. ….. but the draft is about trusting the process the interviews and the scouts … if you believe thier is a player that is worthy of the pick trust the process .. Take Malik as an example … if you have Malik as a top qb in the draft and top 5 prospect overall frick what everyone else thinks and go for it … just because fans or media doesn’t think a qb or wr warrant that pick who cares … in the end it’s the personell of the organization whose job is on the line not the media or fans
Posted on 4/2/22 at 3:12 am to L.A.
even though coming off injury, i'd like Jameson Williams
Olave plan B
Chris Cross if he's there (doubtful)
Olave plan B
Chris Cross if he's there (doubtful)
Posted on 4/2/22 at 7:41 am to L.A.
I don’t know… McShay claimed Chase was the wrong pick last year for the Bengals not a bad pick just the wrong pick
Posted on 4/2/22 at 9:31 am to L.A.
To be fair, most teams don’t have 32 first rounders every season on their draft boards. Some have as low as 10-15 players as “first round choices”. Those teams usually will completely remove a player with certain off the field or other issues going on so it takes out some of the top
There’s usually a drop off around 15 from elite to very good prospects, and then another cliff around 25, which is why you often see teams trading back into the first round at the end
Those tough margins are also why trading down isn’t always an easy option
There’s usually a drop off around 15 from elite to very good prospects, and then another cliff around 25, which is why you often see teams trading back into the first round at the end
Those tough margins are also why trading down isn’t always an easy option
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