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re: Zach Lowe & Kevin Pelton can't imagine a world where Trey isn't starting next year
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:59 pm to duyp
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:59 pm to duyp
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Rather us just trade with Portland. Brogdon as the 6th man (in which he excels at) and Ayton.
Hate that.
There will be something better out there.
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:00 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Are they just catching up? I feel like it's been known that trey has to start next year.
Yeah pretty much. I think these play-in and playoff games on national tv have exposed a lot more people to Trey.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:01 pm to Balsamic_duck
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Nah griff doesn’t have the balls. If I had to guess what happens, we give BI a big extension, and can’t agree to an extension with Trey cuz we’re being cheap. We run it back next year and then lose Trey in RFA by being cheap
No way is he losing his value pick trey Murphy.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:03 pm to Chalkywhite84
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If a gm views Ingram as his guy it won't matter. It just takes one gm. I do think the pels have to chop Ingram up into smaller pieces.
Yeah it does but his value right now is low when hes struggling in the playoffs. And again the guy has done nothing from a progression standpoint this year and he was pretty healthy- but again missed a good bit with another injury. Even if a gm wants him no one will overpay for no reason.
Just curious what do you mean chop Ingram into smaller pieces?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:19 pm to shel311
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Right There aren't many and of whatever the list is, how many are even potentially gettable?
Tyus Jones is pretty good imo but he makes around $15/yr.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:06 pm to Girth Donor
Trade BI for Jarrett Allen and whatever else.
Bring back JV and Naji.
Bring back JV and Naji.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:26 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Trade BI for Jarrett Allen and whatever else. Bring back JV and Naji.
1) why would Cleveland do this?
2) why would you resign JV if you just traded for Allen?
3) what does Naji have to do with a BI trade?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:17 pm to Soggymoss
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Lakers don’t have a true center, they play AD there.
We're still acting like Davis is a 4?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:28 pm to oncealurker
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1) why would Cleveland do this? 2) why would you resign JV if you just traded for Allen? 3) what does Naji have to do with a BI trade?
If Cleveland trades Spyder, might view BI as a replacement to some of those points.
I know everyone wants to move on from JV. But I would love to have him as a 2nd center. Seems like he could be a consistent go to scorer down low against backups.
Naji would be Treys main backup once BI is gone.
I’d hope we could get more since BI was the main piece of the AD trade, but at this point, I’d take the best offer that makes team better, before giving him the max.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:45 pm to shel311
If we don’t move off Ingram this offseason this franchise is doomed.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:54 am to oncealurker
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1) why would Cleveland do this?
Cleveland has to decide (this offseason most likely) if they want to go forward with Allen or Mobley. The 2 can't co-exist
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2) why would you resign JV if you just traded for Allen?
I agree this would be silly unless he took a huge pay cut.
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3) what does Naji have to do with a BI trade?
It doesn't work with 2, but if we let JV go we have room to bump up Naji. Now if we want to do that is another story.
I've defended Naji as incredible value, but that calculation changes when he's not making peanuts.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:28 am to IronJohn
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don’t move off Ingram this offseason this franchise is doomed.
Crazy take, but I'd like us to move on from our current big 3 and build around Jones/Murphy. I wouldn't mind a slight step back while reloading our coffers and extending our window.
Zion had a great year and I love the way he is trending. But he's hurt again and missing crucial games. He's just not dependable and I don't see that changing..
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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I've defended Naji as incredible value, but that calculation changes when he's not making peanuts.
Yep. Same for Jose.
No one’s bitches when the undrafted guy making under $2M has a bad game.
People will bitch if the 4th year guy making $8M is shooting 32% from 3 after the first 10 games of the season.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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I've defended Naji as incredible value, but that calculation changes when he's not making peanuts.
Naji gonna get 10-12mil a year and id lose my mind if we paid that.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:03 am to 50_Tiger
$12M?
Nah
Not the full MLE, which will be just under $13M
$7-8M seems like a good number for both Jose and Naji.
Payton Pritchard just signed a 4/$30M. That’s what a good backup player is worth, and that’s what both Naji and Jose are. They aren’t 6th man territory, just a good backup role player.
Nah
Not the full MLE, which will be just under $13M
$7-8M seems like a good number for both Jose and Naji.
Payton Pritchard just signed a 4/$30M. That’s what a good backup player is worth, and that’s what both Naji and Jose are. They aren’t 6th man territory, just a good backup role player.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:06 am to TeddyPadillac
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$7-8M seems like a good number for both Jose and Naji.
That 16M could go towards a real good back up big.
My problem has never been with the players, its been with the money. You have Hawk and Dyson under cost control.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:11 am to 50_Tiger
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That 16M could go towards a real good back up big.
There’s lots to happen this offseason.
I have a feeling the goal will be to move BI and save money in the process so we can have a better center and backup center, if only for just a year. Getting Lauri for BI accomplishes that, on top of Trey taking BIs place.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:12 am to Pels_Yaz
Losing Ingram is addition by subtraction. Even not adding any talent makes the team upgraded when we have a heathy Zion.
Now when Zion is out, that's a different story.
Now when Zion is out, that's a different story.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:20 am to TeddyPadillac
I think Naji is going to be more than we would think.
He could be a decent producer on a shitty team, and his attitude and versatility works (off the bench, obviously) on good-great teams.
Naji's problem is that he's not great in anything except maybe on-ball D. He's good-solid across the board, though. He's a jack of all trades who can help a lot on D, has grit/attitude/energy, can handle a little, will pass, etc.
You put Naji on a team like Boston or Denver in their 2nd unit and he's going to get national publicity as a bench/role guy. Not 6th man of the year hype, but like what we thought we were getting when we signed James Posey (the final piece).
He could be a decent producer on a shitty team, and his attitude and versatility works (off the bench, obviously) on good-great teams.
Naji's problem is that he's not great in anything except maybe on-ball D. He's good-solid across the board, though. He's a jack of all trades who can help a lot on D, has grit/attitude/energy, can handle a little, will pass, etc.
You put Naji on a team like Boston or Denver in their 2nd unit and he's going to get national publicity as a bench/role guy. Not 6th man of the year hype, but like what we thought we were getting when we signed James Posey (the final piece).
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:23 am to TeddyPadillac
Im swinging for the fences.
The only holdup is if ATL is truly ready to shed salary and trade Trae too. Im giving them 3 FRPs to rebuild too.
I would then pivot to signing one of the following:
Claxton
Hartenstien
Wiseman
Your 2024-25 Pelicans:
Allen
Zion
Trey
Herb
Murray
Jose (TO)
CJ
Hawk
Dyson @ PF
Center off of list
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 8:24 am
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