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re: Yearly NBA trade thread, BREAKING: Mark Williams trade rescinded by Lakers

Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:28 pm to
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He has made first team all NBA 5 straight years and just led Dallas to a Finals less than 8 months ago. Nico Harris can say whatever he wants. He is an idiot and this trade will set that franchise back for an unknown amount of time.


Exactly. Comparing this to Zion makes zero sense.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:43 pm to
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They're going to try to gaslight people into believing Luka is white Zion and not a guy we know is kinda doughy but is also a multi time 1st team all-NBA player, who also gets it in done in the postseason.


Luka is up for a supermax, I just think Mavs didn't want to pay. Its a good trade for both teams in my opinion. AD puts Dallas as a favorite coming out the West, and LA bids adieu to the LeDrama era and build around Luka.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43449 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:47 pm to
Couple of guys on the Pels TL saying BI Herb picks for Book.

I say bullshite but if Luka can be gotten for fricking AD we HAVE A SHOT
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80372 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:50 pm to
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Luka is up for a supermax, I just think Mavs didn't want to pay.

Then fire everyone in your braindead organization then sell the team. You don't deserve a team if you don't want to pay a 25 yr old top 3 player in the league.
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Its a good trade for both teams in my opinion.

If the league shuts down in two years it might be
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AD puts Dallas as a favorite coming out the West

not really and even then it would put them in the same spot that the much younger better player they just traded put them in last season.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130289 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:02 pm to
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AD puts Dallas as a favorite coming out the West not really and even then it would put them in the same spot that the much younger better player they just traded put them in last season.


Kyrie, Klay, PJ, AD, Lively with Gafford, Hardy (not Ivy), Dinwiddie, Naji, and Christie as reserves is pretty formidable.
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 4:06 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80372 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:22 pm to
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Kyrie, Klay, PJ, Luka, Lively with Gafford, Ivy, Dinwiddie, Naji, and Christie as reserves is pretty formidable.

Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
4513 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:22 pm to
That GM is going to surpass Griff/Loomis as the most hated in pro sports and it won’t be even close.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17658 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:26 pm to
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That GM is going to surpass Griff/Loomis as the most hated in pro sports and it won’t be even close.

Even by his own HC
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Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:42 pm to
Supposedly mavs moved on from Luka because of conditioning concerns.....Griffin sitting here staring into space on year 5 with our star having major conditioning concerns
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5815 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:43 pm to
This feels like if Patrick Mahomes was traded for Jared Goff
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476875 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:45 pm to
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Supposedly mavs moved on from Luka because of conditioning concerns.....Griffin sitting here staring into space on year 5 with our star having major conditioning concerns

Luka is clearly better than Zion, but we were worried about giving Zion the baby max. That's why Griff put in the weight clauses.

Imagine facing a 5/345M super max with the 2nd apron being such a thing
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80372 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:50 pm to
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Luka is clearly better than Zion, but we were worried about giving Zion the baby max. That's why Griff put in the weight clauses.

Cause Zion gets actually fat and misses half seasons because of it. One was in the finals and one couldn't make it through two play in games.
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Imagine facing a 5/345M super max with the 2nd apron being such a thing

You win titles with top guys like Luka. You go cheap with the other parts not at the top.
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 2:52 pm
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1809 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:01 pm to
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Imagine facing a 5/345M super max with the 2nd apron being such a thing


If you can't pay a guy who averages over 30ppg, has been 5x FIRST team all NBA, and led your team to a Finals in his first six seasons then you just won't ever pay a super max and you probably shouldn't be a GM or owner.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17658 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Supposedly mavs moved on from Luka because of conditioning concerns.....Griffin sitting here staring into space on year 5 with our star having major conditioning concerns

One has to wonder if Denver maybe having the same thoughts
Posted by Jar_Jar_80
Member since Oct 2013
2171 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:26 pm to
The difference is a out of shape Luka or Joker are still generational players out of shape Zion is the biggest waste of potential in sports history
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:31 pm to
Yeah, they developed elite skills, while Zion is dependent on elite athleticism. Guess which suffers worse when you get fat.
Posted by Smurph33
South
Member since Jan 2021
74 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:47 pm to
No. Just no. Dallas will not be the favorite out of the west. All their stars out now over 30. Dallas just gave up a generational talent at 25 for an oft injured 30 yr old. They lost this trade. Forget favorites out of the west
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17658 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:49 pm to
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The difference is a out of shape Luka or Joker are still generational players out of shape Zion is the biggest waste of potential in sports history

Joker is constantly out of shape though and it will get worse as he ages.

The good thing with Zion is the contract he is on is basically a year to year team option. That in itself is SUPER valuable in this new CBA era, and likely why we’re not even discussing trading him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476875 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:01 pm to
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If you can't pay a guy who averages over 30ppg, has been 5x FIRST team all NBA, and led your team to a Finals in his first six seasons then you just won't ever pay a super max and you probably shouldn't be a GM or owner.

You missed the part about the second apron. It's not about the payout itself.

With the 2nd apron, you cannot make any mistakes with these super max deals now.

Washington is so happy the league found this after AFTER they were able to deal Beal. Boston is already regretting giving Brown his supermax.
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