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Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:17 pm to eyeran
That’s a bit disappointing if we truly waiting for Lue when it’s obvious we aren’t his first choice. Griff got us looking like a rejected side piece eating alone for Christmas.
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:34 pm to WB504
If that is true Griff is all talk with this won’t bow down culture bs and picking a coach who buys into that
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:39 pm to Fun Bunch
I think it is Lue. I’m not really sure why it’s taking so long outside of the chance Griff is letting Lue weigh his options.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:51 pm to Mad Scientist26
I think it’s a Lue as well. Griff has no plan b currently. It’s Lue or Bust.
MDA will likely get the 6ers job so unless Houston comes from the top rope, Lue is ours for the taking, so to speak.
I am totally perplexed by this but that seems to be the plan, hence the silence: there is no one else.
MDA will likely get the 6ers job so unless Houston comes from the top rope, Lue is ours for the taking, so to speak.
I am totally perplexed by this but that seems to be the plan, hence the silence: there is no one else.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:18 pm to Fun Bunch
It’s Joe Alleva all over again
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:26 pm to Macintosh504
We’re assuming Griffin is using familiarity to de-risk a big decision that we would prefer he swing for the fences on. However, the top of the wishlist seems to be buy in and accountability, which is what most of us hopes the swing for the fences choice would bring. Maybe Griff has good reason to believe that someone he’s worked with before is perfect to implement his plan.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 7:35 am to TigerinATL
If we assume that Lue is waiting on the Sixers job, then does he have the buy in Griffin wants?
Posted on 9/26/20 at 8:51 am to Fun Bunch
I would believe we and Lue are waiting more for another coach or 2 to be hired for contract purposes. If Mike D gets Philly job for instance, and he signs for 5-6 million that could possibly allow us to get a lower price on Lue. If Mike D signs for 8-9 million, then Lue’s price may go up to 6-7.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 8:54 am to Soggymoss
McNamara
quote:
This wasnt just random. A few people know this is Lue's job to lose, and have for a while. And if he choses Philly or Houston instead, thats fine too. Plenty of good candidates. If it is Lue, I am insanely interested in the staff he builds out.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:08 am to Fun Bunch
Also Mac:
quote:
I have no doubt that when Griffin talked to Lue in the bubble, the conversation went something like,
"Finish up what you guys are doing here, and then go and explore all your options. Then, come back to me and we will talk"
Whats crazy is this idea that Griffin is chasing after Lue while Lue has eyes only for Philly and will just "settle" for New Orleans if he cant get his first choice.
Thats how things are said to happen on message boards. Not how it goes down in real life in the professional world.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:09 am to LesGeaux45
quote:Exactly what you say to someone who has you by the balls.
"Finish up what you guys are doing here, and then go and explore all your options. Then, come back to me and we will talk"
Lue got cute with the Lakers last year, they told him to kick rocks, now he's about to watch Frank Vogel win a championship.
I wonder if Riley would wait by the phone while a mediocre head coaching candidate was out "exploring his options."
Are we going to try to be a real franchise at some point, or are we always going to operate like the shitty underdog with bad gear in every sports movie?
Have some pride, some belief, in what you claim you strive to be. Lue, and all these other candidates, need us WAY more than we need them.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:13 am to eyeran
This whole thing is extremely unnerving to me. It’s Mickey Mouse bullshite.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:33 am to Fun Bunch
Despite my posts, I'm still fine with where we seem to be. lol.
Mainly because I still really like Griff and can't fathom he doesn't actually have a dozen different plans in place in the event he doesn't get Lue.
I just don't like having some many eggs in the Lue basket, or any coach's, that isnt Pop, Stevens, Spo...
Mainly because I still really like Griff and can't fathom he doesn't actually have a dozen different plans in place in the event he doesn't get Lue.
I just don't like having some many eggs in the Lue basket, or any coach's, that isnt Pop, Stevens, Spo...
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:37 am to Fun Bunch
Idk I don't see any of this as necessarily a problem. If you're letting other candidates you really like slip by and get hired while you wait for your top choice then sure. But we have zero evidence of that. I don't think Steve Nash or Billy Donavon qualify there.
There could also be candidates in the bubble who are in the same tier as Lue (hopefully Craig and Larranaga and not Kidd). If you can't talk to them now anyway, and Lue is considering options, why rush anything?
"Mickey Mouse bullshite" to me would be saying no to quality candidates because they want $5M/yr and we'll only do $4M to save a few bucks.
There could also be candidates in the bubble who are in the same tier as Lue (hopefully Craig and Larranaga and not Kidd). If you can't talk to them now anyway, and Lue is considering options, why rush anything?
"Mickey Mouse bullshite" to me would be saying no to quality candidates because they want $5M/yr and we'll only do $4M to save a few bucks.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:42 am to LesGeaux45
This is all based on the hypothetical that we are waiting on Lue, who is waiting on Philly, and we don’t have a plan B currently. We are waiting on him to see if he doesn’t choose someone else, and if he does we have to basically start a new process. IF that is what we are doing, that is unnerving and makes me really worried about Griffin.
It also might not be true at all. We will ultimately find out.
It also might not be true at all. We will ultimately find out.
This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 10:44 am
Posted on 9/26/20 at 11:01 am to Fun Bunch
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If we assume that Lue is waiting on the Sixers job, then does he have the buy in Griffin wants?
If you are interviewing for 3 jobs that are all promotions, if your 3rd choice is the only one that pans out are you going to do a shitty job because it's your 3rd choice? It's still a promotion, and your current job is about to get a lot shittier with how the Clippers flamed out.
Getting buy in from the players doesn't require the coach to only want the Pels job. It requires being able to command the players respect and trust so you can demand excellence from them.
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I wonder if Riley would wait by the phone while a mediocre head coaching candidate was out "exploring his options."
If Griff's other top candidates are still in the bubble then he isn't waiting by the phone for Lue. He's waiting by the phone for all of his top candidates. It looks like he's waiting for Lue because that's the only one we know about because they've kept everything so locked down.
Griff has ties to some of the assistants we've thrown around that are still in the bubble. So if he's going for familiarity, Lue isn't his only option.
This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 9/26/20 at 12:02 pm to TigerinATL
Yeah I think any worry is just us filling the void of information with negative scenarios given the organizations past. Which I mean it's a message board so not like there's anything wrong with speculation.
But we'll have to wait and find out what the truth is. I'm still optimistic. Too many good candidates out there at this point to come away with the type of disappointment we had with the last hire.
But we'll have to wait and find out what the truth is. I'm still optimistic. Too many good candidates out there at this point to come away with the type of disappointment we had with the last hire.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 12:25 pm to Fun Bunch
I know Griff isn't throwing all his eggs into one basket. He may have zeroed in on one candidate, but he will have 1-2 backup guys.
Philly is ready to compete for a championship now, we are still 2-3 years away. As of now the Philly job is a more attractive one, and one that's likely to pay more than we can afford. I have no problem with someone waiting to see what happens there
Philly is ready to compete for a championship now, we are still 2-3 years away. As of now the Philly job is a more attractive one, and one that's likely to pay more than we can afford. I have no problem with someone waiting to see what happens there
This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 9/26/20 at 4:51 pm to LesGeaux45
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Thats how things are said to happen on message boards. Not how it goes down in real life in the professional world.
Are there any level headed posters left here? I see corndeaux hasn’t posted since March
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