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re: Why the Chet hate?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:59 pm to CrystalPreserves
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:59 pm to CrystalPreserves
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Because current NBA guards and small forwards can push him around and dominate him physically
Length over strength my guy
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Posted on 5/14/22 at 5:03 pm to Lester Earl
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He’s going to be one of the 2 best shooters in this draft
Brether, he made %50 of his 3’s in conference
What C’s can get out & guard this kid if he’s a 40% 3-guy that can put the ball on the floor & pass? You guys got bone about point Zion, shid.
It will be interesting to see how the shooting translates, he was super inconsistent at Gonzaga. If you break his season into 3rds he shot 33%, 56%, and 22% from three. So he started off the season so so, got hot around the middle, and then got cold to end the season. He, really interestingly, was a really poor catch and shoot guy in the half court and wasn’t a threat as a pick and pop guy. He made most of his hay from three with the pull up or trail game in transition, and I go back to his indecisiveness and assertiveness. In transition you’re decisive and just pulling, but there’s a bit more thought in the half court.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 5:27 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Chet can be good, really good and yet the odds are still low that he'll ever have a season as good as Year 2 Zion.
Length over strength my guy
Posted on 5/14/22 at 5:28 pm to Lester Earl
quote:The obvious difference is the "if"
What C’s can get out & guard this kid if he’s a 40% 3-guy that can put the ball on the floor & pass? You guys got bone about point Zion, shid.
Most knew what Zion could do, and he did it. It's not as much of a given with Chet.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 5:48 pm to shel311
Honestly, I don’t think there is anyone in this draft that will reach that high bar at their peak career besides maybe Sharpe, and he’d need to basically become the best version of his forecasts to get there.
Feels like there are about 3-10 players it wouldn’t shock me at their peak are top 30ish offensive players, but besides maybe Sharpe, would surprise me to see end up in the top 15 or 10(odds are there will be 1, just not sure who). Whereas Zion was basically playing at that level in his second season.
Feels like there are about 3-10 players it wouldn’t shock me at their peak are top 30ish offensive players, but besides maybe Sharpe, would surprise me to see end up in the top 15 or 10(odds are there will be 1, just not sure who). Whereas Zion was basically playing at that level in his second season.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 5/14/22 at 5:52 pm to shel311
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Chet can be good, really good and yet the odds are still low that he'll ever have a season as good as Year 2 Zion.
I’m not sure what all that means but I don’t think he has the makings of a generational player like Zion does.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 5/14/22 at 5:59 pm to Bronc
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Feels like there are about 3-10 players it wouldn’t shock me at their peak are top 30ish offensive players
Agreed...I just think Chet could fairly soon check several boxes that Pels need checkin'. Rim protector, solid P&R defender for a BIG and a 3-pt shot that I think MUST be respected, which should open things up inside for other Pels' players, and I don't just mean Zion.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 6:19 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Because he's skin and bones. If he was 30lbs heavier, there wouldn't be much said against him.
I'm not saying he won't translate to the NBA, but I think there are more safe choices than him. I feel like he has more bust potential than others.
Not making this comparison because of the Zag connections, but some of the fears with Chet is why Zach Collins has struggled. Zach has had an injury plagued career and when he has been healthy, he hasn't been able to hang with bugs from a strength and size standpoint.
Chet is insanely skilled and he probably has the highest ceiling of any in this draft. His potential to play from the outside and hopefully as a weakside rim protector is the perfect match for Zion. He may be worth the chance being that we may be playing with house money.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 6:35 pm to CrystalPreserves
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His very best would be Manute Bol level. Manute Bol was not going to carry a franchise. Manute Bol also wasn’t a lottery pick.
The frick
Manute Bol took like 40 3s in his career, with 90% of those in 2 seasons. He couldn’t put the ball on the floor like Chet good lord
Posted on 5/14/22 at 6:40 pm to Bronc
I don't think there're generational potentials in this draft either
Wembanyama (2023 draft) has the superstar potential but he's 7'4 apparently and he must take weight like Chet...
But due to Chet's IQ, mentality and collective playstyle, i think Chet can have Jae Crowder+ / Mike Conley level in nba
Wembanyama (2023 draft) has the superstar potential but he's 7'4 apparently and he must take weight like Chet...
But due to Chet's IQ, mentality and collective playstyle, i think Chet can have Jae Crowder+ / Mike Conley level in nba
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 5/14/22 at 6:56 pm to 504Voodoo
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Not making this comparison because of the Zag connections, but some of the fears with Chet is why Zach Collins has struggled. Zach has had an injury plagued career and when he has been healthy, he hasn't been able to hang with bugs from a strength and size standpoint.
It’s kind of funny because if you google the Collins scouting report it’s like 95% identical as Chet’s. I was on one of Collin’s in particular and thought I was reading Chet’s until I saw the name Collins. I think Chet is a lot more skilled though.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:37 pm to 504Voodoo
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Not making this comparison because of the Zag connections, but some of the fears with Chet is why Zach Collins has struggled.
What are the fears with Chet? The weight? Collins was a lot heavier coming out. He was also drafted on potential as he was the 7th man on that Zags team. Collins tape and resume was almost nonexistent and he he cannot do all the things that make Chet special
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Chet is insanely skilled
Why the comp then? Chet’s skill is a pretty big component that separates him from a Zach Collins and pretty much 98% of the other 7 footers types in the league
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:26 pm to Lester Earl
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Length over strength my guy
Net worth over girth, my wife
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:27 am to GynoSandberg
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Why the comp then? Chet’s skill is a pretty big component that separates him from a Zach Collins and pretty much 98% of the other 7 footers types in the league
The comparison had nothing to do with Collins skill level but every thing to do with why Collins has struggled in the league. The fears with Collins coming out was that he couldn't hold up against NBA bigs from a strength and size standpoint. That has shown itself to be true. Skeptics of Chet are voicing those same concerns. Chet is a twig. We will have to see how his body transforms with NBA level trainers because at the moment, he won't hold up against the likes of Jonas, Steven Adams, Joel, Jokic to name a few.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:28 am to CrystalPreserves
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His very best would be Manute Bol level. Manute Bol was not going to carry a franchise. Manute Bol also wasn’t a lottery pick
What a ridiculous position to take. Shame on those that upvoted such stupidity.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 6:11 am to 504Voodoo
I haven't seen the comp yet, but how about Jonathan Isaac?
Isaac had very raw skills and was a much better athlete. But both are dominate defenders with skinny frames. Center size but more 3/4 tweeners given their lack of strength. Isaac has had a lot of injuries but filled out pretty well and has had some big moments..
Isaac had very raw skills and was a much better athlete. But both are dominate defenders with skinny frames. Center size but more 3/4 tweeners given their lack of strength. Isaac has had a lot of injuries but filled out pretty well and has had some big moments..
Posted on 5/15/22 at 7:08 am to 504Voodoo
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he won't hold up against the likes of Jonas, Steven Adams, Joel, Jokic to name a few
That’s partially why the comp lacks though, Chet will not be asked to guard these guys. They will find the proper matchups for Chet early on, whether it be 3/4/5. Instead of guarding Embiid, can he guard say Toby Harris for a stretch?His length and agility will afford him the ability to slide down some. And of course his frame will be exploited at times by bigger guys.
And to circle back to Collins, he’s actually been a pretty damn good defender. The Zion-eque foot/ankle may never allow him to be a guy, though
Posted on 5/15/22 at 8:50 am to armsdealer
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Oh, Chet. I wouldn’t hate if we landed him, I honestly couldn’t pick between the top 4 this year.
Jabari Smith is running away the best option for us IMO. He fits what this team needs and you actually can make a plan for him to get minutes early that doesn’t hurt the team
Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:19 am to GynoSandberg
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Chet will not be asked to guard these guys. They will find the proper matchups for Chet early on, whether it be 3/4/5. Instead of guarding Embiid, can he guard say Toby Harris for a stretch?His length and agility will afford him the ability to slide down some. And of course his frame will be exploited at times by bigger guys.
Whoever drafts him will probably begin trying to use him similar to how Cleveland used Mobley this year, almost like a free safety. You’d probably be more correct to say Mobley didn’t guard anyone than say he matched up with one guy in particular.
I guess the question is is Chet capable of doing it at a level that doesn’t hurt you defensively. On paper it should work, he’s a high IQ guy and while he’s not as quick footed as Mobley his IQ, length and solid lateral quickness for a guy with his length should make it work. Though I guess you can never know for sure, that’s why the draft is such a crap shoot.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:34 am to CP3forMVP
I think that is pretty spot on on how they’ll use him
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