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What do you do with Murray?
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:23 am
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:23 am
Sending him home for good, the players union/league can force the team to not do that.
Having him and Poole permanently benched could very realistically lead to a pretty toxic situation.
You obviously can't go back to starting him or playing Poole basically at all.
If the trade value was there they both would be traded.
So what do you do? Work with him on carving out a good bench role, showing he is a team player to a showcase for a trade?
Poole you just have to hope someone has a contract that is useful to you and not them to dump
Having him and Poole permanently benched could very realistically lead to a pretty toxic situation.
You obviously can't go back to starting him or playing Poole basically at all.
If the trade value was there they both would be traded.
So what do you do? Work with him on carving out a good bench role, showing he is a team player to a showcase for a trade?
Poole you just have to hope someone has a contract that is useful to you and not them to dump
This post was edited on 11/3/26 at 9:26 am
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:27 am to Fun Bunch
This is where the team has to have a leader. That leader can manage a locker room. He can stop any toxic bullshite and make sure everyone is moving in the right direction.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:30 am to Fun Bunch
quote:This is where strong leadership with a backbone comes into play.
Having him and Poole permanently benched could very realistically lead to a pretty toxic situation.
Murray should be coming off the bench for about 18 minutes a night, Fears starts.
If Fears doesn't have it, then Murray can close games and get to 23-25 minutes.
If Murray pouts about it, see the strong leadership comment, you send him home.
We've let the players run the team for far too long. This is a chance to cut the shite...I have no confidence that we will though, but I sure do hope i'm wrong.
Poole is so bad I simply could not care less if he ever gets on the court or not.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:36 am to Fun Bunch
Give Murray the minutes Watford and Bryce got while he was out, but off the bench. He and Fears should never touch the floor together going forward.
Poole should be used to racking up DNPs for us so I really don’t care about him.
Poole should be used to racking up DNPs for us so I really don’t care about him.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:47 am to Fun Bunch
I may have missed something with Murray. Is there something that points to him being sent home for good? Why should we assume that him going back home doesn’t have something to do with the birth of his child?
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:58 am to Hank Marducas
No, you aren't missing something.
We are better, seemingly, when he doesn't play at all.
So do you just let him sit the bench, carve out a bench role for him, or just not have him with the team
We are better, seemingly, when he doesn't play at all.
So do you just let him sit the bench, carve out a bench role for him, or just not have him with the team
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:59 am to Hank Marducas
quote:
may have missed something with Murray. Is there something that points to him being sent home for good?
He traveled with the team and was supposed to be able to play. The rumor is if he didn't get the start, he wouldn't play. I haven't seen any confirmation of that.
There aren't a ton of good trades out there right now. One I've heard is us making a deal with the Kings for Sabonis. He's just demanded a trade.
We could offer Murray and Poole for Sabonis and Monk. I'm not sure what kind of compensation we might have to include, but the money lines up. Sabonis could do what Matkovic does in slightly different ways. He'd be a great depth piece, especially if we get some injuries up front. Monk is an expiring bench scorer. Not the worst swap and we wouldn't be killing our future cap..
Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:02 am to Fun Bunch
I don’t think they should plan to send anyone out with our injury history. Maybe Poole
Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:03 am to Fun Bunch
Play him. Nothing wrong with having depth. Just need the coach to find out where he fits.
Poole can be left on the bench though.
Poole can be left on the bench though.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:06 am to Fun Bunch
You play Murray till you trade him.
Poole you just sit.
Poole you just sit.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:08 am to brmark70816
quote:
He traveled with the team and was supposed to be able to play. The rumor is if he didn't get the start, he wouldn't play. I haven't seen any confirmation of that.
There aren't a ton of good trades out there right now. One I've heard is us making a deal with the Kings for Sabonis. He's just demanded a trade.
We could offer Murray and Poole for Sabonis and Monk. I'm not sure what kind of compensation we might have to include, but the money lines up. Sabonis could do what Matkovic doe
That would be a decent trade.
Did Murray really say he wouldn't play it he didn't start?
Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:11 am to Hank Marducas
quote:
Is there something that points to him being sent home for good?
It almost looked like both him and Poole were sabatoging the last game before we sat them while rumors of them wanting out were floating around.
Teams that may give us a 1st + more for Murray:
OKC/ BKN/ CHA
Teams more likely to offer player swaps:
HOU: Vanvleet
PHX: J Green
MIA: A Wiggins
Would be nice to see something sooner rather than later.
This post was edited on 11/3/26 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:12 am to touchdownjeebus
quote:
This is where the team has to have a leader. That leader can manage a locker room. He can stop any toxic bullshite and make sure everyone is moving in the right direction.
Or just have a guy like Draymond that will literally knock him out. Then trade him.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:24 am to brmark70816
quote:
He traveled with the team and was supposed to be able to play. The rumor is if he didn't get the start, he wouldn't play. I haven't seen any confirmation of that.
There aren't a ton of good trades out there right now. One I've heard is us making a deal with the Kings for Sabonis. He's just demanded a trade.
We could offer Murray and Poole for Sabonis and Monk. I'm not sure what kind of compensation we might have to include, but the money lines up. Sabonis could do what Matkovic does in slightly different ways. He'd be a great depth piece, especially if we get some injuries up front. Monk is an expiring bench scorer. Not the worst swap and we wouldn't be killing our future cap..
I actually like this trade for us.
In terms of Murray though, play him until you trade him for anything decent. You can start him, but not alongside Fears, and I want Fears in the closing of the games and getting more minutes than Murray.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:45 am to Fun Bunch
Poole can be cut or bought out. That should have happened in the offseason.
I still think you can move Murray. Need to look for a team out there wanting to get rid of a bad contract.
I still think you can move Murray. Need to look for a team out there wanting to get rid of a bad contract.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:52 am to Dantheman504
quote:Don't think anyone gives up a 1st unless it is very heavily protected (i.e. top 20).
It almost looked like both him and Poole were sabatoging the last game before we sat them while rumors of them wanting out were floating around.
Teams that may give us a 1st + more for Murray:
OKC/ BKN/ CHA
Teams more likely to offer player swaps:
HOU: Vanvleet
PHX: J Green
MIA: A Wiggins
Would be nice to see something sooner rather than later.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:54 am to brmark70816
quote:
The rumor is if he didn't get the start, he wouldn't play. I haven't seen any confirmation of that.
I doubt that is true. That sounds like a breach of contract.
Posted on 11/3/26 at 11:07 am to touchdownjeebus
quote:
That leader can manage a locker room. He can stop any toxic bullshite and make sure everyone is moving in the right direction.
Can the head coach be that leader?
Posted on 11/3/26 at 11:32 am to NOSHAU
quote:
Don't think anyone gives up a 1st unless it is very heavily protected (i.e. top 20).
OKC has a plethora on top of their picks that will be in the 20's and could use the help with Wallace/ Williams out
Nets have NYK/ PHI picks that will be 20's anyway.
CHA could love the fit.
Its possible
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:15 pm to Dantheman504
Poole's only value is as an expiring. He'll be in a minimum contract next year.
Murray might have negative value also at his salary, production and reputation.
Murray might have negative value also at his salary, production and reputation.
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