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re: Trade season has started, BREAKING: DURANT TO SUNS, frick
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:01 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:01 pm to TigerinATL
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13.0 48.8 4.3 1.2
Rui has solid numbers and plays 2x the minutes of Hayes. He’s not a scrub. He just dropped 30 on 13/22 shooting. You don’t see Hayes doing that.
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:04 pm to duyp
Jaxson could definitely put up those numbers and more if he had the playing time. His deficiencies are on defense, not offense.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:17 pm to Soggymoss
Maybe he can but he didn’t do it yet. They’re basically giving away Rui for free. If it was Hayes and I saw that trade for him, I be upset too.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:20 pm to Soggymoss
He's yet to have a 30 point game, but I do agree he has value as a backup/spot starter 4 playing the sort of dollar-store Mobley role on defense he did for us last year.
Of course fewer teams are looking to fill that hole, so I do wonder if Jax's value wouldn't be lower.
Of course fewer teams are looking to fill that hole, so I do wonder if Jax's value wouldn't be lower.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:21 pm to Soggymoss
"Veteran sharpshooter Doug McDermott could command one or two second-round picks on the trade market depending on the pick number and any protections, league sources told HoopsHype. McDermott has shot 41.8 percent from downtown during his Spurs tenure and is owed $13.75 million next season.
Veteran wing Josh Richardson is also available for a second-round pick, league sources told HoopsHype. Richardson, a 29-year-old 3-and-D swingman, will become an unrestricted free agent this summer." - HoopsHype
Would be glad to see either of those trades move DG and get done.
Veteran wing Josh Richardson is also available for a second-round pick, league sources told HoopsHype. Richardson, a 29-year-old 3-and-D swingman, will become an unrestricted free agent this summer." - HoopsHype
Would be glad to see either of those trades move DG and get done.
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:23 pm to duyp
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If it was Hayes and I saw that trade for him, I be upset too.
I only agree because of how far out some of the 2nds are, 2 are 2028 and 2029. But 3 2nds is close to 1st round pick value which is what Washington was reportedly holding out for.
Remember when we traded Mirotic to the Bucks for 4 2nds? That was 1st round value when we couldn't get an actual 1st for him. If the Pels got what projects to be 3 top 45 picks from the next 3 years for Jaxson I'd take that in a heart beat.
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:27 pm to Macintosh504
quote:Meh
Lakers got better
Hachimura doesn't move the needle.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:31 pm to shel311
quote:Maybe, maybe not. But they got him for nothing.
Meh
Hachimura doesn't move the needle.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:38 pm to duyp
quote:Rui has scored 20 or more 5 times this season. Jax scored 20 or more 5 times last season. And I know the season is still going but when you factor in the # of games getting over 20 minutes, they're pretty close to equal.
He just dropped 30 on 13/22 shooting. You don’t see Hayes doing that.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:41 pm to BamaPelican
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Would be glad to see either of those trades move DG and get done.
100% agreed
I've been on the Richardson would be a great bench fit since last year. But I'd take McBuckets too
The only question with Mcbuckets is I feel like Willie would end up playing most guys ahead of him cause he is so laser-focused on maxmizining defense with his lineups. Richardson is at least a decent enough defender that I could see Willie siphoning off minutes for him right away.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:45 pm to NOSHAU
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they got him for nothing.
Full trade details
Lakers receive:
- Rui Hachimura
Wizards receive:
- Kendrick Nunn
- 2023 2nd round pick (via Bulls)
- 2028 2nd round pick (Wizards/Lakers less favorable)
- 2029 2nd round pick (via Lakers)
wiz got all garbage except the 2023 CHI 2nd (maybe)
Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:58 pm to cgrand
Rui is a forward that doesn’t play defense, nor really shoot from the outside. He likes to shoot mid range jumpers. He also has missed a TON of games in his early career. He was underwhelming enough that a team like the Wizards, the team that drafted him and searching for talent, was like “Nah, I’m good.”
This is a swing by the Lakers, but more like a swing with their eyes closed.
That Chicago second was one of their best assets other than the future firsts they so badly do not want to deal. And trading Nunn makes matching contracts on a bigger move much more difficult. I think it’s a lot less likely today they make a big move.
This is a swing by the Lakers, but more like a swing with their eyes closed.
That Chicago second was one of their best assets other than the future firsts they so badly do not want to deal. And trading Nunn makes matching contracts on a bigger move much more difficult. I think it’s a lot less likely today they make a big move.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:08 pm to Bronc
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only question with Mcbuckets is I feel like Willie would end up playing most guys ahead of him cause he is so laser-focused on maxmizining defense
McBuckets needs size at the rim behind him at the 4 and 5. If he can funnel drivers into the trees and focus on using his size contesting outside then he’s highly playable. If we expect him to man up without backside help then he’ll get cooked off the floor.
But that’s the same kind of issue we have when we go single big down low and 2 smalls up top (Jose, DG, Kira, CJ) now…at least McBuckets has a little size.
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:17 pm to BamaPelican
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Would be glad to see either of those trades move DG and get done.
I mean, what the hell are we waiting for?
and give me McDermott over Richardson, and get him to shoot at least 8 threes a game.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:19 pm to Soggymoss
It's important to remember that the last year of Devonte's contract is not fully guaranteed only like 2 million. So hopefully that helps in unloading him
Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:20 pm to Balsamic_duck
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I would take 3 seconds for jax in a heartbeat. I dont think its crazy to say jax has been better than rui so far and he's much younger than rui
I'd be ecstatic if someone wanted 3 2nds for him. I'd be happy with one 2nd.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:27 pm to Jar_Jar_80
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It's important to remember that the last year of Devonte's contract is not fully guaranteed only like 2 million. So hopefully that helps in unloading him
It might help with mcdermott since he has 13.75m left after this year and DG has 15m left after this year. so the spurs wouldnt taking on a ton of extra money. Richardson would be harder since he's expiring so we'd have to pay extra for the spurs to take on DG's future money
Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:28 pm to BamaPelican
quote:LINK
Since training camp, SpursTalk has exclusively reported on multiple occasions that the Spurs are requesting two first round draft picks in any trade involving Poeltl. Recently, other outlets have confirmed that is indeed San Antonio’s asking price. According to the team source I talked to, the Spurs don’t plan to budge from requiring two first rounders to complete a Poeltl trade.
-Six weeks ago, SpursTalk reported that the Toronto Raptors were serious about acquiring Poeltl. According to two league sources, the Raptors remain focused on completing a trade for Poeltl and their offers to the Spurs have been described as “increasingly aggressive.”
While Toronto is said to have multiple trade offers on the table for Poeltl, a league source told me that the offer that has gained the most traction so far is a three-team trade that also involves Gary Trent Jr.
Just connecting some dots here with our alleged interest in Gary Trent Jr.
I don't love it and have serious reservations about Gary Trent Jr. and how his future salary fits with the team. But this seems to get everyone what they want. The Raps probably throw another player at the Spurs to get under the tax. I guess the main question for the Pels is, is there a trade of Graham/Jax/1st that brings back a better return?
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:29 pm to cgrand
quote:
Full trade details
Lakers receive:
- Rui Hachimura
Wizards receive:
- Kendrick Nunn
- 2023 2nd round pick (via Bulls)
- 2028 2nd round pick (Wizards/Lakers less favorable)
- 2029 2nd round pick (via Lakers)
wiz got all garbage except the 2023 CHI 2nd (maybe)
Thats better than nothing. They had no intention of extending him and no one was giving a 1st for rui. I dont see how they couldve gotten much more. Hell they got more than we did for lonzo
Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:38 pm to Balsamic_duck
quote:That's what I'm trying to figure out by folks saying Washington is helping the Lakers and got trash for Rui.
Thats better than nothing. They had no intention of extending him and no one was giving a 1st for rui. I dont see how they couldve gotten much more.
Washington wasn't going to keep Rui and no team was going to give a 1st, so how is 3 2nds a bad deal for the Wizards?
They did a good job here.
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