re: Trade season has started, BREAKING: DURANT TO SUNS, frick

I just do not see us making a move of that magnitude at all, and I think the Raptors are just gonna price themselves out of any major trade.

I see us making 1 margin move with guys like Willy, Jaxson, Temple, Kira, etc. If we made a big move it would be with JV but I don't see that until the offseason.

Possibly teams like the Jazz would be involved.

Agreed.

Giving up picks is fine but giving up picks and key young talent (Dyson, Trey) is a problem if I don’t think this takes us from “contender” to “heavy favorite”.

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This Anunoby thing has a real sense of "I want your really good player, but don't want to give up anything of value for him."

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OG is a good player but I just don't see him as a star, and they are asking for STAR acquisition cost.

Just doesn't seem worth it for what he is.

I wouldn't say they're asking for star acquisition cost. Typically that involves another star, which Dyson, Trey, or Herb are not.

Personally I would probably move Dyson or Herb for OG. BUT, what else is going out would be very hampered if I had to make that move. Specifically with Dyson.

But from the Raptors point of view, if you don't include a Dyson, Herb, Trey, etc you really aren't including anything at all.

Raptors are trying to bottom out and collect stuff which meets their future timeline.

Picks OR young guys can do that along with salary ballast. Picks AND young guys is too much for what we get back IMHO.


I’m not saying “I want OG for a bag of nickels” but they are asking more than he is worth given what he brings to us. I’m fine with walking away if this is their price.

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Picks OR young guys can do that along with salary ballast. Picks AND young guys is too much for what we get back IMHO.

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I would agree with this.

I don't even want OG for cheap. He's not at all what we need. Another wing defender who is just an ok shooter and sloppy ball handler? How's that help?

We need a flame thrower not a slightly better version of Herb.

I don't want him on the team. I think he's redundant and would lock us in to an overpriced contract for a non-star that thinks he's a star and wants to get paid like one.

And....Klutch.

OG to the Pels would be a time shifting trade for both teams going in different directions. The Raptors wanting the centerpiece to be an asset that could become as good as OG is normal. The problem here is the Pels want to time shift but aren't desperate for it. I mentioned the other day, turning Herb into OG seems like the kind of deal you make after you fix your other, bigger problems, like upgrading JV.

Imagine a world where Jaxson had lived up to his potential and were just a 3&D wing away from legit contention. That's when you get close to Toronto's price to upgrade Herb. But we aren't there so this isn't happening.

OG just doesn't do that much for us IMO.

We NEED shooting. We NEED rim protection. He provides neither at any major degree.

He'd upgrade say, Herb, at a much higher salary.