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re: Trade season has started, BREAKING: DURANT TO SUNS, frick

Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:34 am to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:34 am to
I like that for us but I bet someone asks us to add more value.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4455 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:36 am to
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If the rumors of Miami offering a first to get off his deal are true, then I would see if Spurs would take the 1st to use their cap space and everyone could be happy.

Clips: Lowry, Billy
Heat: Reggie Jackson, Hayes
Spurs: Graham, 1st from Heat
Pels: Kennard

Miami gets out of the tax this year and creates a 10 million dollar TPE and allows them to re-sign their young guys next season.

Clips get off Kennards salary and get a guy they can convince themsleves would help them win a championship, also get a backup big for Zubac.

Spurs get a 1st to use their cap space.

Pels get a shooter in Kennard, create a 6.8 million and 2.2 million TPE, open up 2 roster spots and get 9 million below the tax line while still having our MLE to use in the buyout market. Also Kennard gives us an expiring 15.5 million contract next year we could flip for bigger piece





Call it in griff
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7926 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:38 am to
I might stop watching the team if we got Simmons. Never ever could I root for that dude.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13081 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:38 am to
The main issue I have with that is the lack of big men we will have after that trade.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17659 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:45 am to
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The main issue I have with that is the lack of big men we will have after that trade.

We would have a TPE large enough to absorb a Vanderbilt, or plenty of room under the tax to throw big money at a buyout candidate
quote:

I like that for us but I bet someone asks us to add more value.

At most i could see us having to add a couple 2nds, maybe to Miami, but IMO i think its a pretty balanced trade since Miami gets a young prospect in Jax to see if they can do anything with, and Clips get a backup big for Zubac that theyve been searching for.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 8:48 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:48 am to
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Clips: Lowry, Billy
Heat: Reggie Jackson, Hayes
Spurs: Graham, 1st from Heat
Pels: Kennard


This is the first trade I've seen that I haven't had to talk myself into some aspect of it. The main question is do the other teams like those players enough to make this happen. You have 2 roster spots to add bigs through the buyout market. Tristan Thompson and Dwight come to mind. If he isn't traded, Keven Love will probably get bought out too.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 8:49 am
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13081 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:49 am to
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We would have a TPE large enough to absorb a Vanderbilt, or plenty of room under the tax to throw big money at a buyout candidate



Works for me then
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17659 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:55 am to
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The main question is do the other teams like those players enough to make this happen.

The only if here i could think of is of LA thinks pairing Lowry back with Kawhi helps their chances. He’s definitely an upgrade to Reggie at this point, and absolute worst case for them they have Lowry as a huge expiring next year to try to chase a 3rd star to pair with KL and PG. They also have a good backup big on a minimum deal for next year to.

Reggie would just be a buyout candidate for Miami, their big reason for doing it is opening up money under the tax to re-sign Strus and Gabe next year.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 8:56 am
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
11298 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:07 am to
you need to get another big also
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17659 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:11 am to
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The Jazz have discussed a deal that would send a combination of rotation players including Mike Conley and Malik Beasley to the Lakers for 2027 and 2029 first-round picks and Russell Westbrook, per @espn_macmahon Russell Westbrook would likely receive a buyout after the trade.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:11 am to
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NBACentral @TheNBACentral 52m

The Jazz have discussed a deal that would send a combination of rotation players including Mike Conley and Malik Beasley to the Lakers for 2027 and 2029 first-round picks and Russell Westbrook, per @espn_macmahon


Russell Westbrook would likely receive a buyout after the trade.


What is Danny Ainge going to do with all of these draft picks he's collecting? He never pulled the trigger on a star trade in Boston because no stars wanted to stay there. They aren't going to want to stay in Utah either.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:14 am to
The Lakers have been adamant all along about now moving both 1sts but they're discussing moving both 1sts for Conley and Beasley?
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1734 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:16 am to
The Lakers trading those two picks to turn Westbrook into Conley would be so awesome lol
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104086 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:18 am to
He probably keeps moving them around to draft the guys he wants.

This is a guy who offered four firsts for Justice Winslow when he thought he was the missing piece for the team.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:18 am to
Yeah, I thought that was crazy too. I wonder if LeBron is threatening to sit if a trade isn't made and Buss needs that playoff revenue like Shinn did.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13756 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:21 am to
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What is Danny Ainge going to do with all of these draft picks he's collecting? He never pulled the trigger on a star trade in Boston because no stars wanted to stay there. They aren't going to want to stay in Utah either.

Heck, what is he losing in that trade though? He gets off of Conley's $25 million in 2024 when he really does not fit their trajectory. I think it would be a good move for them. Westbrook probably gets bought out and goes to the Nets with KD.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104086 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:22 am to
I was playing on the trade machine and a mix of Westbrook and picks for Conley, Beasley, and Olynyk works.

That helps them clear the board for this offseason while still letting other decent pieces (Jordon Clarkson, etc) be dangled in further trades.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7926 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:22 am to
I thought Hield and Turner for two 1sts was a bad trade. Conley and Beasley? LMFAO
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17659 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:26 am to
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Clips: Lowry, Billy Heat: Reggie Jackson, Hayes Spurs: Graham, 1st from Heat Pels: Kennard

This is the first trade I've seen that I haven't had to talk myself into some aspect of it. The main question is do the other teams like those players enough to make this happen. You have 2 roster spots to add bigs through the buyout market. Tristan Thompson and Dwight come to mind. If he isn't traded, Keven Love will probably get bought out too.

Just seen Shams said to watch for Lowry to Clips
quote:

Names to watch for the Clippers:

Kyle Lowry
Mike Conley

(Via @ShamsCharania )
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104086 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:26 am to
They thought they would get a better offer as teams fell out of contention.

Yeah, no.

Instead, a ton of teams remain in contention including the Pacers, who extended Turner.
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