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re: Trade season has started, BREAKING: DURANT TO SUNS, frick
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:37 pm to 50_Tiger
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:37 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:I like him and he fits perfectly but it just doesn't fully make sense to pay that much then have to wayyyy overpay him at $30mil.
Shamit saying rumors for asking price of OG are HIGH.
I think I said it above, he's substantially better than Herb, no question IMO. But he's not trade Herb+2 1sts plus $30mil to whatever Herb's extension will be level better than Herb. That seems just too much.
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:38 pm to NOSHAU
Am I thinking any return on Willy is worth less than what he can/cannot provide during the season?
I feel like keeping him, feeding him minutes (obviously offensively he's decent enough) to reduce the wear on JV is better than a random 2nd round pick.
I feel like keeping him, feeding him minutes (obviously offensively he's decent enough) to reduce the wear on JV is better than a random 2nd round pick.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:39 pm to shel311
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I like him and he fits perfectly but it just doesn't fully make sense to pay that much then have to wayyyy overpay him at $30mil.
I think I said it above, he's substantially better than Herb, no question IMO. But he's not trade Herb+2 1sts plus $30mil to whatever Herb's extension will be level better than Herb. That seems just too much.
My exact thoughts. Will cost way too much money and assets. Great player though.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:40 pm to htran90
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Am I thinking any return on Willy is worth less than what he can/cannot provide during the season?
You are not wrong, but if he really is that unhappy, sometimes you just gotta move a guy for what you can get.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:40 pm to Balsamic_duck
That's always been my thoughts on OG.
Real good player, the acquisition cost will just be way way too high for what he gives you.
Real good player, the acquisition cost will just be way way too high for what he gives you.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:44 pm to Fun Bunch
Nets want FVV from the Raptors and are looking into sending Dinwiddie and picks.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:45 pm to jamal
Woj says Raptors have had alot of talks today, should start seeing alot of movement soon
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:45 pm to htran90
quote:
Am I thinking any return on Willy is worth less than what he can/cannot provide during the season?
I feel like keeping him, feeding him minutes (obviously offensively he's decent enough) to reduce the wear on JV is better than a random 2nd round pick.
I love willy but he wont make or break our season and he wants out. Take a 2nd and get some goodwill for doing right by a player.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:45 pm to Soggymoss
Stein line:
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Among the possibilities for expanding the Kyrie Irving-to-Dallas trade before this evening's scheduled trade call: League sources say that Brooklyn has explored the feasibility of packaging Spencer Dinwiddie and draft capital to Toronto in an attempt to acquire Fred VanVleet.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:49 pm to Balsamic_duck
Terrible idea if no replacement is coming back. We don't have that kind of depth to be giving away Hernangomez right now.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:51 pm to shel311
Why do i feel like dinwiddie > FVV
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:59 pm to Soggymoss
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The Miami Heat are ‘motivated’ to find a new team for Kyle Lowry, per @GregSylvander “The organization believes the guys in the locker room, even Lowry’s closest friends, recognize the need for a change.”
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:59 pm to htran90
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Why do i feel like dinwiddie > FVV
In a vacuum i think FVV is better but considering he's expiring, wants +30m/year, and they would have to give up at least a 1st, I would rather have dinwiddie
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:00 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:Agreed. We have JV, Nance and nobody else that does "traditional big" stuff. He can stay mad if we aren't able to replace him with another backup center.
Terrible idea if no replacement is coming back. We don't have that kind of depth to be giving away Hernangomez right now.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:00 pm to shel311
Is FVV better than Dinwiddie, so much so that you have to add draft capital to get him?
FVV has a player option for next year, that i'm sure he'll opt out of, and they are only a year apart age wise
FVV PER36 the last 3 years
19 points, 6 assists, 2 turnovers, 37% from 3
Dinwiddie PER36 the last 2 years (hurt 3 years ago)
18 points, 6 assists, 2 turnovers, 37% from 3
I think both are good defenders, but Dinwiddie is 6'5" and plays bigger than that, not 6'1" like FVV. Dinwiddie can guard 4 positions. FVV can't switch onto big guards/forwards.
FVV has a player option for next year, that i'm sure he'll opt out of, and they are only a year apart age wise
FVV PER36 the last 3 years
19 points, 6 assists, 2 turnovers, 37% from 3
Dinwiddie PER36 the last 2 years (hurt 3 years ago)
18 points, 6 assists, 2 turnovers, 37% from 3
I think both are good defenders, but Dinwiddie is 6'5" and plays bigger than that, not 6'1" like FVV. Dinwiddie can guard 4 positions. FVV can't switch onto big guards/forwards.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:04 pm to TeddyPadillac
It's hard to say until we see what the final roster look like after the deadline.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:11 pm to supe12sta12z
I seriously don't get the OG fascination for this team.
He's not any better than Herb or Dyson defensively and isn't enough of an upgrade offensively.
Plus, he has character issues. Anyone who signs with Klutch is guilty at minimum of poor judgment.
And why trade Willie for nothing? Keep him and he can get dealt in the summer if he still wants out. frick solids. We need depth.
He's not any better than Herb or Dyson defensively and isn't enough of an upgrade offensively.
Plus, he has character issues. Anyone who signs with Klutch is guilty at minimum of poor judgment.
And why trade Willie for nothing? Keep him and he can get dealt in the summer if he still wants out. frick solids. We need depth.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:12 pm to ghost2most
I’m with you. We need to hit on specific types of lower contract players that fill roles like a sharp shooter. I’d be willing to see how to get bogdonavich.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:16 pm to ghost2most
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He's not any better than Herb or Dyson defensively and isn't enough of an upgrade offensively.
but yet he is both.
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Plus, he has character issues. Anyone who signs with Klutch is at minimum of poor judgment.
that's character issues? You'd feel the same if it was CAA a decade ago. yes they are scummy when it comes to getting LeBron what he wants, but they're just an agency otherwise.
Lonzo? Good character
Ant Edwards? Good character
Clarkson? Good character
Sexton? Good character
GTJ?
Nurkic?
On and on. yes, nobody denies they don't have people fans hate (green, lebron, AD, etc). but that's far from character issues like Ja Morant and Dillon Brooks.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:17 pm to MrJimBeam
Get Malik Beasley
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