re: Trade season has started, BREAKING: DURANT TO SUNS, frick

I saw that retweet. Today is 8 Days in so we should start seeing things as early as today.

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I am seeing a lot of OG to NOLA but what does he fix?

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Imagine Herb with a good 3 point shot.
Now imagine paying 2 good 1sts to get him.
Now imagine his agents are Klutch and he’ll be opting out in 2 years looking for more than $25 per year.

So he does fix some on court things but really complicates off court things like the salary cap and draft assets.

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Just don't think its the best use of assets. You're gonna have to pay a star price for a guy that isn't close to being an all star. He just happens to be the best guy available, that we know of. Then there's Klutch, the contract, and the reports that he wants a bigger offensive role in TO. He'd actually be further down the priority list here than he is in Toronto, on offense. Plus we'd still have a massive rim protection problem.

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I see OG as a consolidation piece. He’s what you hope Herb will grow into. Maybe you cash in some chips + Herb + another wing to get the version you want. He’s also 25 so when CJ is done he forms the third of your big 3 of (BI, Zion, OG). You can’t add many more rookies and players of OGs caliber rarely go on the trade block.

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Imagine Herb with a good 3 point shot

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That's the rub, his 3pt shot is average, maybe slightly above average, but I wouldn't call it "good". I am not saying he is a bad player, I just don't see how he is worth the squeeze.

Big that can defend or an actual sniper (at least top 40, so better than TMIII) is what I am looking for for big assets. Now if we are talking trading a couple of our guys that need new scenery (Jax, DG) for someone else guys that might need some new scenery go for that. Spend all the seconds you want or maybe a protected first getting a mid level guy that fits better or fills a need but I don't want to bet the farm on something that won't help now.

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That's the rub, his 3pt shot is average, maybe slightly above average, but I wouldn't call it "good".

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I meant good for a 3 and D wing. He’s not a shooter with gravity, but he’s good enough to make teams pay for leaving him open. But like you said, that doesn’t fix our other issues. Upgrading Herb into an OG type seems like a move you make further down the line after you fix your other issues.

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I see OG as a consolidation piece. He’s what you hope Herb will grow into. Maybe you cash in some chips + Herb + another wing to get the version you want. He’s also 25 so when CJ is done he forms the third of your big 3 of (BI, Zion, OG). You can’t add many more rookies and players of OGs caliber rarely go on the trade block

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My thing with OG is that what he provides is kinda a strength of ours already. Is he better than herb trey Dyson Naji? Yes right now he is, but it’s not like it’s a weakness of our we need to upgrade. I think we have more glaring issues with rim protection and shooting(OG is a good not great shooter) that our assets would be better spent on. Teams would kill for our talent and depth at wing and we want to spend the large amount of assets it would take to get OG to upgrade that? Doesn’t make sense to me

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I would expect the organization to believe that Trey will be as good as OG if not better over time

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He’s already a much better shooter than OG. I don’t think he’ll be as good defensively but I think trey will turn into a good defender

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OG’s amazing defense hasn’t meant much for Toronto’s defense because they have no rim protection, which neither do we

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OG isn’t the solution. He’s a nice player, but not the solution. The Pels need a legit stretch 4/5 to come off the bench that can reasonably blend his play with JV/Zion/Larry, so we don’t have to constantly go small.

IMO a guy like Kelly Olynyk is almost perfect…not a max salary, great size for the 4, decent size for a 5, plays hard, elite shooter. Swap him for Jaxson, and DG for a guy like Malik Beasley (but there are a lot of options for reasonable SG/SF shooters) and the Pels become legit championship contenders.

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OG isn’t the solution. He’s a nice player, but not the solution. The Pels need a legit stretch 4/5 to come off the bench that can reasonably blend his play with JV/Zion/Larry, so we don’t have to constantly go small.

IMO a guy like Kelly Olynyk is almost perfect…not a max salary, great size for the 4, decent size for a 5, plays hard, elite shooter. Swap him for Jaxson, and DG for a guy like Malik Beasley (but there are a lot of options for reasonable SG/SF shooters) and the Pels become legit championship contenders.

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I'd def take olynyk qnd beasley over og.

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The Pels need a legit stretch 4/5 to come off the bench that can reasonably blend his play with JV/Zion/Larry, so we don’t have to constantly go small.

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That’s John Collins….at least for the players we have been linked to. I don’t love it, but if you are preparing to not have Zion or BI for at least 30 games a season then you might as well spend you money on a player that will get you buckets.