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Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:31 am to Don Pel
OG only under contract one more year , he has a player option the next .
Also , Klutch client .
Though I think he brings a lot of value to the court , the above would limit the value I’d be willing to give up for him.
Also , Klutch client .
Though I think he brings a lot of value to the court , the above would limit the value I’d be willing to give up for him.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:44 am to Don Pel
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What position do you envision him playing for the Pelicans? I think he would fulfill the small ball Center we’ve been seeking.
OG is lauded for his insane wingspan and athleticism… and he’s respected around the league as one of the strongest players pound for pound.
I think the one thing I need to see more examples of is this argument in practice.
Cause despite their struggles, Nick Nurse is still an elite coach, and been on the forefront of modern defensive lineups....and he has shied away entirely from OG at Center. Despite needing to find answers with their own rim protection issues this season.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:49 am to Bronc
OG + Klutch = frickkkk no
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:58 am to ghost2most
Not gonna go down the well-tread rabbit hole, but I think that Klutch stuff is overblown.
Garland, a Klutch client, has been a model citizen in small market Cleveland.
And most importantly, I don't think that it matters to Griff. Who has had Klutch clients on rosters most of his career. And we've been in rumors with others as well, namely Gary Trent Jr.
Garland, a Klutch client, has been a model citizen in small market Cleveland.
And most importantly, I don't think that it matters to Griff. Who has had Klutch clients on rosters most of his career. And we've been in rumors with others as well, namely Gary Trent Jr.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 7:59 am
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:25 am to Bronc
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Not gonna go down the well-tread rabbit hole, but I think that Klutch stuff is overblown.
Garland, a Klutch client, has been a model citizen in small market Cleveland.
And most importantly, I don't think that it matters to Griff. Who has had Klutch clients on rosters most of his career. And we've been in rumors with others as well, namely Gary Trent Jr.
I think the Klutch stuff is overblown but what i dont think is overblown is the rumors that OG wants a bigger role. This is year 2 of those rumors and if thats true then i dont want to trade for him since his role would be the exact same here and he would be just as unhappy
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:30 am to Bronc
Hey, I may be in the minority opinion and maybe it's emotional, but I would never knowingly sign a Klutch client. Ever.
And as soon as a player on the roster signed with them, they'd be on the block.
I refuse to negotiate with terrorists or jersey salesman.
And as soon as a player on the roster signed with them, they'd be on the block.
I refuse to negotiate with terrorists or jersey salesman.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:46 am to ghost2most
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Hey, I may be in the minority opinion and maybe it's emotional, but I would never knowingly sign a Klutch client. Ever. And as soon as a player on the roster signed with them, they'd be on the block. I refuse to negotiate with terrorists or jersey salesman.
And you’d be fired as a GM for negligence.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:48 am to Balsamic_duck
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I think the Klutch stuff is overblown but what i dont think is overblown is the rumors that OG wants a bigger role. This is year 2 of those rumors and if thats true then i dont want to trade for him since his role would be the exact same here and he would be just as unhappy
I’d hope we’d be able to understand this point of view before trading for him. Not sure exactly what “bigger role” means but I think his role on the Pelicans would be massive. He’d be the defensive anchor, small ball five and a secondary creator. I think the goal would be to use him like Draymond who is a hall of famer. I hope that’s what he’s thinking and not wanting to be a high usage guy which isn’t his game.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:01 am to Bronc
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I think that Klutch stuff is overblown.
It is not overblown, they play hardball when they lack the leverage to do so and that is destructive for everyone involved.
We dodged a bullet with Lonzo and the injuries, but they absolutely poisoned the well and assured the Pels got a minimum return. Trading good players and multiple 1sts for OG a year before contract negotiations is like giving Klutch a loaded gun. We're talking about $25 million being too much for him, they'll push for the max and threaten to walk if he doesn't get it. The Pels should not target him for many reasons, but Klutch and the potential impact on his salary is a factor.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 9:02 am
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:19 am to TigerinATL
Denver is shopping Bones Hyland, and in return they’re looking for a defensive forward.
Problem with that is Bones only makes like 2 million, so their options will be limited.
Problem with that is Bones only makes like 2 million, so their options will be limited.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:22 am to Soggymoss
Bones would be better than anyone on our bench currently. Man I wish we could get him.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:30 am to 50_Tiger
quote:Bones is nothing special, but he thinks he is. He is another undersized guard who simply chucks 3s and offers little else. Pass.
Bones would be better than anyone on our bench currently. Man I wish we could get him.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:36 am to higgsBoson
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He’d be the defensive anchor, small ball five and a secondary creator.
OG is not a secondary creator. He is honestly really bad at creating his own shot. He is a play finisher. His ISO numbers, efficiency on drives, pull up numbers, etc. are all really bad. He handle is really weak and leads to turnovers. He wouldn't be helping our offensive woes that much.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:38 am to Soggymoss
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Denver is shopping Bones Hyland, and in return they’re looking for a defensive forward.
Problem with that is Bones only makes like 2 million, so their options will be limited.
If the number 1 team in the west is trying to trade him then that should tell you a lot. He will be hunted in the playoffs. Plus last thing this team needs is more small guards
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:38 am to Balsamic_duck
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OG is not a secondary creator. He is honestly really bad at creating his own shot. He is a play finisher. His ISO numbers, efficiency on drives, pull up numbers, etc. are all really bad. He handle is really weak and leads to turnovers. He wouldn't be helping our offensive woes that much.
I think that’s fair but I think that’s what “bigger role” would mean for him. Now if he could actually grow into that role is unclear.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:38 am to Balsamic_duck
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OG is not a secondary creator. He is honestly really bad at creating his own shot. He is a play finisher. His ISO numbers, efficiency on drives, pull up numbers, etc. are all really bad. He handle is really weak and leads to turnovers. He wouldn't be helping our offensive woes that much.
Agree. Dude is so overrated.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:42 am to higgsBoson
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I think that’s fair but I think that’s what “bigger role” would mean for him. Now if he could actually grow into that role is unclear.
I think the dude wants the jerami grant route where he'll go to a bad team for a couple of years and take 20 shots a game. Could he grow into that role? Maybe but it would be hard to do here when he would be at most 4th in the pecking order on offense.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:48 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:Luckily for us, we don't need him to create his own shots and only need him to finish plays.
OG is not a secondary creator. He is honestly really bad at creating his own shot. He is a play finisher.
quote:There is no world where subbing out Herb Jones for OG wouldn't be a net positive for our offense.
He wouldn't be helping our offensive woes that much.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:55 am to shel311
I just think getting OG is upgrading something thats kind of already a strength for us. I think rim protection is a more glaring weakness as we're dead last in opp % at the rim. I think we could add rim protection and shooting for cheaper than what it would cost to acquire OG
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