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re: Toronto showing interest in Ingram ahead of trade deadline
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:07 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:07 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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You're trying to mend the wrong side of the bridge.
I dont give a damn.
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:08 am to LSUgrad88
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What bridge do the Pelicans need to mend? Enabling him? Treating him with kid gloves during ALL the injury woes? Help me out here.
There are two sides to a story and while he has been EXTREMELY culpable in his part, the Pelicans Org may be just as bad.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:08 am to 50_Tiger
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the Pelicans Org may be just as bad.
How?
He is too heavy and not in shape. That is the most basic responsibility of a professional athlete. For the team to be "as responsible", they would have to not perform their most basic responsibility, which would be paying him. Has the team missed any checks? Has Zion ever not been paid?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:25 am to Macintosh
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Yeah Toronto is not Utah lmao. A lot more appealing. I’m sure masai can talk Brandon into staying especially if they did keep RJ and paired Ingram with Barnes
As a stupid rich 20 something black guy, SLC is not ideal. Many in that situation would not consider it an upgrade over New Orleans. Small market to nicer, but whiter, colder, and more puritan small market.
Toronto is 10x the size of SLC. It’s the 7th biggest metro in North America and has tons of money. If you don’t mind the weather, it’s got a lot going for it.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:20 am to 50_Tiger
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There are two sides to a story and while he has been EXTREMELY culpable in his part, the Pelicans Org may be just as bad.
Yeah, well one of these stories is a hell of a lot longer than the other.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:36 am to LSUgrad88
There's probably an 80% chance our FO is dumb enough to trade BI to TOR without getting RJ back and make the Zion situation worse. If that happens or if we trade BI/ CJ for just future assets then Zion is going to request a trade. And at that point our FO gets just as much heat as Zion for wasting any chance we had at competing over and over and over again.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:39 am to Dantheman504
Idk why yall want RJ so bad
Yall care more about catering to a guy who can’t stay healthy and has shite professionalism than building up for the future of the team. This squad is not doing anything. Why delay the inevitable
Similar to Beal I’ll take him if we’re able to get more draft capital for taking him.
Yall care more about catering to a guy who can’t stay healthy and has shite professionalism than building up for the future of the team. This squad is not doing anything. Why delay the inevitable
Similar to Beal I’ll take him if we’re able to get more draft capital for taking him.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 9:45 am
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:49 am to Macintosh
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Yall care more about catering to a guy who can’t stay healthy and has shite professionalism than building up for the future of the team. This squad is not doing anything. Why delay the inevitable
Lets get this clear: I couldn't give a frick about catering to Zion or keeping his arse.
Is he the best player we can get/ have on our team when healthy? Yes 100%.
Does that mean he's still currently our best chance to win a championship. Yes unfortunately 100%
So Idgaf about "catering to Zion" I do care about putting him in a better situation with another +20pt scorer that he has chemistry with because that increase our contender chances.
I still want to compete now and as long as Zion/ Murray/ Trey/ Herb are on the roster then we can build that team.
At the exact same time I am also 100% on board trading Zion/ CJ/ BI/ Jose and maybe Hawk right now.
You either find a way to compete while trading CJ/ BI or you go scorched earth.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 9:53 am
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:54 am to Macintosh
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:57 am to TigerinATL
I don't really want Barrett. I want future assets and cap space to build. I liked the proposal of getting Indy 1st and flipping Boucher and Brown. That's likely going to be one of our better options at this point.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 9:58 am
Posted on 1/29/25 at 10:26 am to MrJimBeam
Anyone else Checking the board every hour with the hope Ingram has been traded?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:12 am to IronJohn
Long shot but would anyone do a
Fox & Derozen for Murray and BI.
We’d be getting the best player in the deal but it’s a gamble. Derozen gonna hit that wall soon. And we’d have to resign Fox. Derozen can just come off the bench.
They’d have to re-sign BI but get Murray for a few years. Doesn’t look like we are getting much for BI so might as well package him. I’d think he’d resign with Sac if the money is right and they had interest in him before.
Fox & Derozen for Murray and BI.
We’d be getting the best player in the deal but it’s a gamble. Derozen gonna hit that wall soon. And we’d have to resign Fox. Derozen can just come off the bench.
They’d have to re-sign BI but get Murray for a few years. Doesn’t look like we are getting much for BI so might as well package him. I’d think he’d resign with Sac if the money is right and they had interest in him before.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 11:14 am
Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:15 am to Townedrunkard
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Long shot but would anyone do a
Fox & Derozen for Murray and BI.
I would melt
Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:16 am to Townedrunkard
Fox knows where he wants to go and it ain’t here, so it would be effectively trading Murray for DeRozan.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:22 am to teke184
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Fox knows where he wants to go and it ain’t here, so it would be effectively trading Murray for DeRozan.
I get that but will that team be able to afford him? Y’all said the same thing about Spyder when I said we should have went all in traded with Utah and he stuck with Cleveland.
It’s one thing for a player to know where he wants to go but the dynamics to get there have changed dramatically now.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 11:25 am
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:44 pm to NOFOX
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McNamaras trade idea was Brown, Boucher, Indy 2026 1st round pick. id prefer that. but RJ would be fine. he won't hurt our tanking process
That makes the most sense as the base of the trade. Drops us under the tax and gives us a first. We could also potentially route Brown or Boucher to a playoff team for more picks.
Looking at this a little more from Toronto's perspective, they would have cap issues with a $40M AAV BI contract. Adding Olynyk in place of boucher fixes that:
BI+minimum for Brown + Olynyk + '26 1st
We still duck the tax, get a first, but if Olynyk is not re-routed, we take on $13.5M next year. More than you want to pay an old backup C, but at least Olynyk spaces the floor and passes well.
If we do not trade CJ, it would put us at ~$170M for 11 players. We would have $18M for our 1st rounder (~$5M-11.5M) and 2-3 other players filling out the roster.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:31 pm to TigerinATL
Shamit seems to be embellishing a bit there. He has a lot of flaws, but one of the 10 worst contracts in the league? That seems to be a stretch.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:35 pm to MrJimBeam
quote:Given what appears to be no market for BI, I guess so. Basically a potentially late 1st and the ability for Gayle to duck the tax and get more $$$ this year. Weak return, but may be the best we can expect at this point.
I don't really want Barrett. I want future assets and cap space to build. I liked the proposal of getting Indy 1st and flipping Boucher and Brown. That's likely going to be one of our better options at this point.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 3:41 pm to NOFOX
I'd be fine with that but us taking on a contract that we might have to dump at the deadline next year makes me say i'd want a 2nd from them back as well. That 2025 2nd from Portland would work.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:26 pm to Dantheman504
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make the Zion situation worse.
The only way you do this is by continuing to make moves centered around Zion.
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