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This is a bad, bad situation.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:02 pm
I've always regarded myself as "one of the 17 fans" of this team since we got them in 2002. I'm there on Wednesday nights when 1/3 of the building was full, when the NBA owned this team, the OKC PR disaster, you name it. But, this may be one of biggest underachieving teams in the 16 years in New Orleans given the talent.
There is no excuse for this team to be .500 with two of the best bigs in the game, and a guard with a $130 million contract. I'm tired of the unforgivable losses to NY, MEM, and DAL.
This is a bad, bad situation because apathy is beginning to set in with me. I'm attending fewer games because I am finding myself saying more and more often that "I'm tired after work" and would rather just be at home. When I get home I may flip to the game to see how they are doing, and I do like the steady hands of Joel and David, but this is no longer must see TV. I think about this and how 1) other people must be getting tired of this too especially in a fickle basketball market to begin with, and 2) IF they actually were winning consistently, maybe there WOULD be more buzz around the city. I was at the Rusty Nail the other night, a bar that typically has a clientele between 25-45 and the game wasn't on any of the tvs in the city that the team plays in. Crazy.
If this city is ever going to treat the Pelicans like part of the fabric of the city, and not just a reason to get out of the house, then we need wholesale changes - new head coach and undoubtedly a new GM that knows how to draft worth a damn.
There is no excuse for this team to be .500 with two of the best bigs in the game, and a guard with a $130 million contract. I'm tired of the unforgivable losses to NY, MEM, and DAL.
This is a bad, bad situation because apathy is beginning to set in with me. I'm attending fewer games because I am finding myself saying more and more often that "I'm tired after work" and would rather just be at home. When I get home I may flip to the game to see how they are doing, and I do like the steady hands of Joel and David, but this is no longer must see TV. I think about this and how 1) other people must be getting tired of this too especially in a fickle basketball market to begin with, and 2) IF they actually were winning consistently, maybe there WOULD be more buzz around the city. I was at the Rusty Nail the other night, a bar that typically has a clientele between 25-45 and the game wasn't on any of the tvs in the city that the team plays in. Crazy.
If this city is ever going to treat the Pelicans like part of the fabric of the city, and not just a reason to get out of the house, then we need wholesale changes - new head coach and undoubtedly a new GM that knows how to draft worth a damn.
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:04 pm to LSUneaux
Monty Williams would have had us in the playoffs. He did it on his way out.
Gentry sucks.
Gentry sucks.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:05 pm to LSUneaux
Hopefully they keep losing. Changes are needed
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:05 pm to LSUneaux
quote:
I was at the Rusty Nail the other night, a bar that typically has a clientele between 25-45 and the game wasn't on any of the tvs in the city that the team plays in. Crazy.
this has been going on since the team moved here. there just isn't anywhere near enough buzz to ever get going. could you imagine if the Saints keep on a roll AND the pels were sitting in the 4-5 seed (which they could EASILY be at this point)? this city would be going insane when Mardi Gras hit. but they always find a way to frick up and lose the fan base in times when it should be so easy.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:13 pm to LSUneaux
I didn’t even bother watching the game. I just assumed they were gonna lose to an inferior team and check in to see if they would surprise me. Nope.
This team doesn’t care so why should the fans.
This team doesn’t care so why should the fans.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:22 pm to LSUneaux
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I'm tired of the unforgivable losses to NY, MEM, and DAL.
The loss to Sacramento was the worst. No team in the NBA with a decent big man should ever lose to them. They cannot guard in the post, like horrifically bad. We have two of the best in the world.
But we get a big lead and just jack up three's for the entire fourth quarter.
I don't know if that is worse or if you're up by 20 against golden State and you wait till they go on a 15-0 run before you call a timeout.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:29 pm to LSUneaux
Didn’t even read at first but upvoted because of the title.
It’s more of a depressing situation than a bad one.
Although at least we’re likely to make the playoffs this season. Usually we’re on the outside looking in. Just am not interested in another first round sweep. This roster is better than that but unfortunately it is what it is.
It’s more of a depressing situation than a bad one.
Although at least we’re likely to make the playoffs this season. Usually we’re on the outside looking in. Just am not interested in another first round sweep. This roster is better than that but unfortunately it is what it is.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:33 pm to MrPel
Yea I'm just meh with this team now. If we are the 8 seed we will get swept again
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:34 pm to schwartzy
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Monty Williams would have had us in the playoffs. He did it on his way out.
Gentry sucks.
Jeez there's some revisionist history going on with some of you. PTAO was born in that playoff season right about this time because that team did the same thing this team is doing with the inconsistent winning and playing down to the competition.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:40 pm to TigerinATL
But this team should be more talented than the playoff team and should be dominating teams in the paint and on the glass
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:41 pm to TigerinATL
Yeah, the Monty revisionism is over the top.
People already forgot him leaving his family at home because of all the abuse he took at games?
This board hated Monty.
People already forgot him leaving his family at home because of all the abuse he took at games?
This board hated Monty.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:44 pm to SuperSoakher
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But this team should be more talented than the playoff team and should be dominating teams in the paint and on the glass
Is it?
Holiday-Evans-Gordon-Asik
or
Holiday-Moore-Rondo-Cousins
That gap between guards is equally as large as Cousins is to Asik
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:50 pm to eyeran
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This post was edited on 4/8/23 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 1/10/18 at 10:57 pm to msutiger
quote:I agree. I was on the fence about firing Monty, but raged on this board as soon as reports about them interviewing Gentry came out.
Firing Monty was the right decision. Hiring Gentry was not.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 11:05 pm to msutiger
I’d like a younger coach personally.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 11:20 pm to eyeran
quote:
I agree. I was on the fence about firing Monty, but raged on this board as soon as reports about them interviewing Gentry came out.
It's just frustrating because that all happened in probably one of the best offseason's the Pelicans could of ever had to set up the future with a new coach.
You had Thibs, JVG, Mike Malone, Kenny Atkinson, Calipari(if rumors were real), D'Antoni, and Scott Brooks all looking for employment....And you take Alvin Gentry.
I don't put nearly as much blame on Gentry as I do Demps for this roster of misfit parts, but I do feel like that if we had hired most of those coaches we would have at least a few more wins right now. Gentry is at best an average coach, and you chose average over all that.
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 1/10/18 at 11:52 pm to LSUneaux
I have to agree with this. Games just aren’t as fun to watch anymore. I first started watching in 2009-10 when Walrus was the interim head coach, even with an injury plagued season, it was still fun to watch Colison and Thornton tear it up as rookies.
Then the 2011 playoff run was nice to watch everything come together. Even the First year without CP3 was fun to watch.
I think part of the loss of excitement is that there just aren’t any intriguing rookies/prospects that the team can watch grow. I loved watching Davis grow as a player, but now it feels like we’re complacent as a team because I don’t see a way we get better. If we retain Cousins, whats our plan then? We’ll only have the MLE to sign free agents, we can’t expect rookies to contribute right away in the way we would need them to, and we lack any real valuable assets outside of Boogie and AD.
Then the 2011 playoff run was nice to watch everything come together. Even the First year without CP3 was fun to watch.
I think part of the loss of excitement is that there just aren’t any intriguing rookies/prospects that the team can watch grow. I loved watching Davis grow as a player, but now it feels like we’re complacent as a team because I don’t see a way we get better. If we retain Cousins, whats our plan then? We’ll only have the MLE to sign free agents, we can’t expect rookies to contribute right away in the way we would need them to, and we lack any real valuable assets outside of Boogie and AD.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:13 am to TigerinATL
quote:
PTAO was born in that playoff season right about this time because that team did the same thing this team is doing with the inconsistent winning and playing down to the competition
not sure I agree with the assertion that this season is as similar to that one as you make it seem. that team had a very young davis who was clearly going to skyrocket and the world seemed to be their oyster relatively speaking
you could forgive the inconsistency because you had hope that it was growing pains.
this team is an adult, fully formed
it's a disappointment
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:28 am to LSUneaux
I feel like a bad fan saying this, but considering Special Ed and Alleva are still at LSU and I'm not against them tanking to have them fired sooner, I feel the same way about the Pelicans. I hate saying it, but if the Pelicans continue to disappoint with the talent they have, MAYBE just maybe they'll get rid of Alvin Gentry and Dell Demps too. They both suck arse, and they have been around long enough and haven't gotten the job done at all. No idea if this will actually happen, but it sure definitely does.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:30 am to msutiger
quote:
Firing Monty was the right decision. Hiring Gentry was not.
Exactly exactly right. Like switching from Les to Special Ed. Firing both were the right moves, but both of their replacements were beyond laughable.
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