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re: The rest of the games Game Thread 2024-2025

Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:15 am to
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11195 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:15 am to
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is a silly discussion to EVEN have...it ain't happenin' folks


Why would we want a guy that shoots 65%+ from 2 to focus on a shot that at best will be 33%-35% for him. Just let him keep going to the rim.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
2144 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:47 am to
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quote:
is a silly discussion to EVEN have...it ain't happenin' folks


Why would we want a guy that shoots 65%+ from 2 to focus on a shot that at best will be 33%-35% for him. Just let him keep going to the rim.


Totally agree...and why any discussion of Zion shooting 3s is a silly waste of time....and fwiw...for his career, Zion is shooting 70.3% from 0-3'...48.3% from 3-10'...41.7% from 10-16'... 41.7% from 16-3 pt line...and 33% from 3 pt line. Obviously, Zion does NOT need to be taking shots from anywhere beyond 10'...actually, a deeper analysis would suggest he shouldn't take shots from beyond 7'.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
11985 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:57 am to
He's going to need to take 3-4 a game regardless of his percentage. It's the long game with that shot and he has to get comfortable and confident in that shot to develop it. Taking 1 a quarter shouldn't be a hard ask for him. It's a wide open practice shot. We just don't have the coach to motivate him to shoot it and that needs to change.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
2314 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 12:12 pm to
4-4 against the Spurs in his debut. Very realistic, in fact, I’d even say likely.
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
2947 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 12:19 pm to
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Naz Reid
Flagg/Bailey
Trey
Zion
DJM


When or how did we get Naz Reid?
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
17364 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 12:40 pm to
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IF he were to add a 10' jumper to his game


Middies are the devil, though.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
17364 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 12:42 pm to
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4-4 against the Spurs in his debut. Very realistic, in fact, I’d even say likely.


So why hasn't he done it again in the 5 1/2 years since?
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7122 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 4:13 pm to
By the time we lost Herb and definitely by the time we lost Murray, our season was lost

We were going through the motions at the beginning of the season

Z wasn’t playing hard or often. Herb’s defense had significantly declined. Murray didn’t start playing decent for 2 months (understandable with off court trauma). CJ was CJ. Hot and Cold. It was a horrible start. We came out cocky and passive, thinking 49 wins was the floor.

The only guy that came out to play to start the season was Missi. And luckily he did, otherwise we’d probably have 8 wins instead of 16 right now.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10755 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 4:16 pm to
Zion and McCollum are both out tonight. Zion is just listed as rest. McCollum sprained his ankle.

So, he's a 'star' in his best shape ever. Never been so light. Yet he breaks 30 minutes for the first time in almost 4 months, and he needs a night off. You can't make this stuff up..
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5917 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 5:17 pm to
You realize he’s not choosing that, right? Pels want to lose more than win right now. Zion counters that a bit.

I’m good with it
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
2314 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 5:23 pm to
Best practice is to ignore retards like him. He knows it’s an organizational decision to rest Zion on B2B’s but he’ll complain anyways.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
41973 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 6:08 pm to
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When or how did we get Naz Reid?


He's expected to be a FA this summer.
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
5421 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 6:16 pm to
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Yet he breaks 30 minutes for the first time in almost 4 months, and he needs a night off.


It's smart if we're forced to be realistic. Whatever they were trying before clearly wasn't working. Pels staff were beating their heads against a wall repeatedly. They have a good thing going now with Z playing 28-30 min and no B2Bs. He looks lighter and fresh on both ends of the court. Keep it going and slowly see if he can handle more mins next season.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16536 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 6:28 pm to
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He's expected to be a FA this summer.

And he will get far more money than we can pay him
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
11985 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:35 pm to
It'll be an interesting free agency. This is the first time in Griff's tenure thar there will be bigs who compliments Williamson on the open market. Lopez, Turner, and Reid to name a few. Curious to see if they make a run for any of those guys. They are definitely going to be overpaid.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10755 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:43 pm to
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You realize he’s not choosing that, right?


We have been over this. They cannot sit him if he wants to play. No doctor or medical staff have ruled him unfit. If he wants to play, he could. They agreed to this arrangement for some reason. It is dumb and serves no purpose.

quote:

Pels want to lose more than win right now. Zion counters that a bit.


Is it more important to lose or for Zion to keep ascending? He's starting to warm up and you shut him down?

quote:

I’m good with it


If the team can just tell him to take the night off, cause they don't feel it's important to play (or they want to lose), why wouldn't Zion be able to make the same decision about games in the future? Is this really the type of mindset or behavior we would want to encourage?
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1744 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:47 pm to
You do realize that Murray got hurt in the first game of the season and missed the next 6 weeks? You also realize that Herb injured his shoulder in the second game of the season I Portland diving on a loose ball? Zion was hurt in the 6th game of the season. Trey was hurt a week before the season started. I just don’t get your argument. The team lost four of their top 7 players, including their best player, best shooter, best defender, and big offseason aquisition before game 7 was completed.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7122 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:55 pm to
You do realize that the only reason why Murray got injured is because Z took a personal day on game 1 of the season?

The trickle down effect is real and it started with Z quitting on his teammates before the season even started.

We have injuries and mental Health days every single season. It’s the reason why we need to move on from this front office and group overall. This is who they are.

When you remove dawgs like Naji and Jonas. We didn’t have the guys to cover up for the personal days Z likes to take.

Nance was a big loss leadership wise as well. I don’t hate the move to go get Dejounte, but it backfired bc Ingram and Zion are not reliable A and B players and we 100% lost our most reliable players in the process of that trade and free agency.

If this wasn’t year 6 of this era, I’d be more willing to chalk this season up as a fluke lost to injuries.

However, the data says, this is who we are with Z as our best guy.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
5421 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:07 pm to
alright lets lget back on track and lose tonight fellas
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 8:08 pm
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
11985 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:10 pm to
It's all fair game until the game starts.
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